Air Force One

I was watching the PBS documentary they were showing this week
about AF1, and as they had shown the progression from the planes used
back in Franklin Roosevelt's tenure as President, to the B707 from
Kennedy to Reagan, to the current AF1 (at least that they showed in the
documentary, since Bush Jr. was in it), to be a B742 variant. It got me
wondering...

The B742 is just about all phased out, with the B744 and the
B777 doing the majority of the long haul runs of the Boeing line (yes,
the 767 series is there, but doesn't have the range of the 747 and
777), So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

BL.
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Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380?

Somehow I rather doubt that the president (and certainly not the
current administration) would buy Airbus.

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You don't care, you won't be around.

They flew the 707 until the only other operators were flying dodgy cargo
trips into South America with it. They'll fly the 747 until the same
situation applies.

Then they'll buy American, even if that means a Citation X because Boeing
bit the big one.

Mat

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I was watching the PBS documentary they were showing this week
about AF1, and as they had shown the progression from the planes used
back in Franklin Roosevelt's tenure as President, to the B707 from
Kennedy to Reagan, to the current AF1 (at least that they showed in the
documentary, since Bush Jr. was in it), to be a B742 variant. It got me
wondering...

The B742 is just about all phased out, with the B744 and the
B777 doing the majority of the long haul runs of the Boeing line (yes,
the 767 series is there, but doesn't have the range of the 747 and
777), So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

BL.
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In rec.aviation.piloting Matthew Waugh wrote:
You don't care, you won't be around.

They flew the 707 until the only other operators were flying dodgy cargo
trips into South America with it. They'll fly the 747 until the same
situation applies.

Then they'll buy American, even if that means a Citation X because Boeing
bit the big one.

Mat

Actually, I do care. otherwise, I wouldn't have posted. I
thought it was interesting about the succession of aircrafts used as
Air Force One, and wanted to get people's opinions on which would be
the next in the line. But since you seem to know how I feel and what my
thoughts are, then you should know that with a post like this, I
wouldn't care what you thought. But I digress.

BL.
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In article , A Guy Called
Tyketto wrote:

[snip]

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the
VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and
everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going
to be flying in a Boeing aircraft.

--
Bob Noel

There is no way that this administration would buy Airbus or any other
aircraft with a French connection.
There would not be any contest, it would be Boeing all the way.
Bob

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In article , A Guy Called
Tyketto wrote:

[snip]

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the
VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and
everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going
to be flying in a Boeing aircraft.

--
Bob Noel

Robert Browne wrote:
There is no way that this administration would buy Airbus or any other
aircraft with a French connection.

I just had a Gene Hackman flashback, so I thought would look the movie
up at IMDB. I found it... It said, In 2003, this movie was renamed
"Freedom Connection".

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?


It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the
VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and
everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going
to be flying in a Boeing aircraft.


I vaguely remember somehting about AF1 being required to have four
engines (here's the 2 vs.4 ETOPS argument again...). Urban legend or
not? Think Boeing could hang two extra engines on a Vista-Cruiser or
whatever they've decided to call the 7E7 when the time comes?? :-)

Vista-Cruiser or
whatever they've decided to call the 7E7

Dreamliner.

I think two engines would qualify, if the single-engine performance is
up to standard. The FAA came around.

(I remember how startled I was in 1986 to find myself flying over the
South China Sea in a two-engine Airbus, having been persuaded by the
FAA how necessary four engines were to my personal safety.)

all the best -- Dan Ford (email: info AT danford.net)

see the Warbird's Forum at http://www.danford.net/index.htm
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In article , Matthew Mayer
wrote:

I vaguely remember somehting about AF1 being required to have four
engines (here's the 2 vs.4 ETOPS argument again...). Urban legend or
not? Think Boeing could hang two extra engines on a Vista-Cruiser or
whatever they've decided to call the 7E7 when the time comes?? :-)


I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that it will be 777 over a 7E7.

How else will they be able to carry all those media flacks?