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Rerouting To Same Route Question
So while IFR on the way back to NY from VA, I was rerouted about five times
which was fine with me (the first four were all shortcuts). What was interesting was the last "reroute." I was just south of the Cedar Lake VOR (VCN) on V16 with a clearance from there V16 JFK Direct FRG. Approach calls me and says "I have a slight reroute for you. Ready to copy?" After my affirmation, she proceeded to give me VCN V16 CYN "then after Coyle Victor 1 JFK then direct." For those with a chart handy, you'll notice that V1 overlaps V16 over that segment so they "rerouted" me to the same route. I didn't see a point in questioning them especially given the busy freq. What gives? Can any of you ATC folks shed some light on this harmless yet interesting experience? A little-known computer quirk, LOA, weird procedure or something? Marco |
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Rerouting To Same Route Question
On 5/15/2007 11:27:36 AM, "Marco Leon" wrote:
What gives? Can any of you ATC folks shed some light on this harmless yet interesting experience? A little-known computer quirk, LOA, weird procedure or something? Marco, I can only give you another IFR pilot's experience, but right or wrong I have concluded that ATC's computer will spit out preferred routes that are not tolerant of any fix/VOR deviation, even if the deviations result in the same route. To expand a bit, to fly IFR to Teterboro (NY City's busiest GA airport) from Syracuse, NY, there is a specific IFR that must be filed. If that route is not filed exactly as the ATC computer requires it, the pilot will receive a full route clearance from ATC when retrieving the clearance. It took me a few attempts before I was able to get the "Cleared as filed" response from clearance. To me this seems similar to your scenario. -- Peter |
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Rerouting To Same Route Question
"Peter R." wrote in message
... To expand a bit, to fly IFR to Teterboro (NY City's busiest GA airport) from Syracuse, NY, there is a specific IFR that must be filed. If that route is not filed exactly as the ATC computer requires it, the pilot will receive a full route clearance from ATC when retrieving the clearance. It took me a few attempts before I was able to get the "Cleared as filed" response from clearance. To me this seems similar to your scenario. Yeah, getting that "cleared as filed" response in the northeast has become elusive and therefore a coveted reward for a flight well-planned. While we're on this subject, is there a way when using DUATs to put radar vectors in the route section? Marco |
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Rerouting To Same Route Question
On 5/15/2007 11:52:39 AM, "Marco Leon" wrote:
While we're on this subject, is there a way when using DUATs to put radar vectors in the route section? I am not aware of how to do that. I consider "cleared via runway heading, radar vectors (some VOR), then as filed" as good as a win in the "will I get as-filed" game. -- Peter |
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