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767 at LAX did a go-around today!
The mark of a good pilot(s). The passengers might expect every approach to
terminate in a landing, but no pilot should have that expectation. Bob Gardner "Yossarian" wrote in message et... I was listening to the LAX tower (south runways) on my handheld today at about 3:40pm and was surprised to hear American 297 heavy call "going around" while on short final. I followed along as the pilot reported a slats problem. Tower headed him to LAX VORTAC then outbound 235 at 2000'. Two SoCal approach controllers took him in turn, asking if he needed assistance but apparently they worked everything out and landed safely 10 minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a heavy jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out! |
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In a previous article, "Yossarian" said:
minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a heavy jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out! I've been on a heavy that did a go-around. The pilot said that another plane blundered onto the runway. -- Paul Tomblin , not speaking for anybody Once we've got the bugs ironed out, we'll be running on flat bugs |
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "Yossarian" said: minutes later. Pretty minor I guess but I've never seen or heard of a heavy jet doing a go around. Must have freaked some of the passengers out! I've been on a heavy that did a go-around. The pilot said that another plane blundered onto the runway. The same here, with the same announcement on the intercom. However, since I'm always observing the approaches, I noticed shortly before the pilot did the go-around that he was way too high. From my window seat, I couldn't see if there was another plane on the runway, but I doubt it. -Joe |
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message news:bi17s3! ... The pilot said that another plane blundered onto the runway. That has been known to happen from time to time, and was probably the case. But, the old "...other plane on the runway..." story has also been used to cover a few bad approaches over the years. :-) JG |
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Yep. Friend of mine is a AA pilot and told me that they had to land once
without flaps. Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were for that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind you). They were a bit close, so they went around and announced that another plane had come out on the runway. Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression that ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case. Why lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it. |
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Come on, that's easy. Most people will be freaked out enough that they
aren't landing on the first try, without having to believe it's a problem with their own plane. "Jeff Franks" wrote in message ... Yep. Friend of mine is a AA pilot and told me that they had to land once without flaps. Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were for that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind you). They were a bit close, so they went around and announced that another plane had come out on the runway. Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression that ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case. Why lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it. |
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Bull. Don't lie to me. Even if I know nothing about whats going on.
Explain it to me in a way that I'll understand that "hey this isn't a big deal, we'll just land on a longer runway while going a little faster than normal". I'd rather see that than to be told that the whole friggen system is at fault and some "small plane" (that was the term they used) had just screwed up. Not for me. "Yossarian" wrote in message et... Come on, that's easy. Most people will be freaked out enough that they aren't landing on the first try, without having to believe it's a problem with their own plane. "Jeff Franks" wrote in message ... Yep. Friend of mine is a AA pilot and told me that they had to land once without flaps. Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were for that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind you). They were a bit close, so they went around and announced that another plane had come out on the runway. Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression that ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case. Why lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it. |
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Yep. Friend of mine is a AA pilot and told me that they had to land once
without flaps. Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were for that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind you). They were a bit close, so they went around and announced that another plane had come out on the runway. Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression that ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case. Why lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it. I wonder what compels them to get on the horn and say something about it in the first place. Just fly the damn plane. |
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"Jeff Franks" wrote in message ....Trouble was that none of them knew what the speeds were for that setup, so they had to dig out the books ("professional" pilots mind you). That's normal. That's the safest way to do it. There's no point in committing details of abnormal procedures to memory -- plenty of time to look them up. And you don't "..dig out the books..". There are convenient checklists all prepared that cover virtually all eventualities. There are a few emergency procedures that you do memorize -- immediate action items only. Regards, John Gaquin B727, B747 |
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"Jeff Franks" wrote in message Kinda irked me because it gives the non-flying public the impression that ATC/GA/Another pilot had put them at risk, when this was not the case. Why lie? Just tell the passengers whats happening and get on with it. It's a careful balancing act. Some people watch the progress of the flight out the window, and have some familiarity. But not many. Most people haven't got a clue what makes an airplane tick, and if you tell them somethings not absolutely 100% normal, they'll get upset. You could wind up causing more problems than you already have. Generally speaking, if you're dealing with an abnormal, glossing over it is acceptable -- it really is no big deal. If you have a bona fide emergency, you play straight and right up front. -- Regards, John Gaquin B727, B747 |
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