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Old July 18th 03, 01:56 PM
robert arndt
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Old July 18th 03, 02:34 PM
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There's actually a larger requirement than just a flying
gin palace for the boy Blair. The RAF's VC-10's are now
seriously long in the tooth as are the Tristar tankers and both
got a lot of flying hours lately supporting ops in Afghanistan and
Iraq.

There's a real need to replace both in the refuelling and
transport role. Its my understanding that 2 bids have been
made

The first from EADS, RR, Cobham and Thales involves
the use of Airbus 330-200 airframes while the other
from BAE Sysytems,Boeing and Serco involves the
use of Boeing 767-300ER airframes.

Keith


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Old July 18th 03, 03:07 PM
Darrell A. Larose
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Rpb


There's actually a larger requirement than just a flying
gin palace for the boy Blair. The RAF's VC-10's are now
seriously long in the tooth as are the Tristar tankers and both
got a lot of flying hours lately supporting ops in Afghanistan and
Iraq.

There's a real need to replace both in the refuelling and
transport role. Its my understanding that 2 bids have been
made

The first from EADS, RR, Cobham and Thales involves
the use of Airbus 330-200 airframes while the other
from BAE Sysytems,Boeing and Serco involves the
use of Boeing 767-300ER airframes.

The RAF could buy the CanForce CC-150 Polaris, #05 (A310-304F). This was
fitted out for long departed Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, as a
VIP Air Force 1 type of a/c. It even has Gold faucets in the bathroom.



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Old July 18th 03, 03:35 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Darrell A. Larose" wrote in message
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Rpb


There's actually a larger requirement than just a flying
gin palace for the boy Blair. The RAF's VC-10's are now
seriously long in the tooth as are the Tristar tankers and both
got a lot of flying hours lately supporting ops in Afghanistan and
Iraq.

There's a real need to replace both in the refuelling and
transport role. Its my understanding that 2 bids have been
made

The first from EADS, RR, Cobham and Thales involves
the use of Airbus 330-200 airframes while the other
from BAE Sysytems,Boeing and Serco involves the
use of Boeing 767-300ER airframes.


The RAF could buy the CanForce CC-150 Polaris, #05 (A310-304F). This was
fitted out for long departed Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, as a
VIP Air Force 1 type of a/c. It even has Gold faucets in the bathroom.


Buying a one off is a bad idea as it raises the cost of ownership
since you have to hold a separate spares inventory , train
personnel to fly and operate it etc etc.

Using standard RAF transport with reconfigurable seating
would seem a better option.

Keith

Keith


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Old July 18th 03, 06:12 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" ) writes:
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Rpb


There's actually a larger requirement than just a flying
gin palace for the boy Blair. The RAF's VC-10's are now
seriously long in the tooth as are the Tristar tankers and both
got a lot of flying hours lately supporting ops in Afghanistan and
Iraq.

There's a real need to replace both in the refuelling and
transport role. Its my understanding that 2 bids have been
made

The first from EADS, RR, Cobham and Thales involves
the use of Airbus 330-200 airframes while the other
from BAE Sysytems,Boeing and Serco involves the
use of Boeing 767-300ER airframes.

The RAF could buy the CanForce CC-150 Polaris, #05 (A310-304F). This was
fitted out for long departed Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, as a
VIP Air Force 1 type of a/c. It even has Gold faucets in the bathroom.



The last thing we want is to encourage the slimy git to act even more
like a president.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!
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Old July 18th 03, 06:26 PM
Simon Robbins
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"Darrell A. Larose" wrote in message
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The RAF could buy the CanForce CC-150 Polaris, #05 (A310-304F). This was
fitted out for long departed Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, as a
VIP Air Force 1 type of a/c. It even has Gold faucets in the bathroom.


Gold faucets would never do. Blair's "supposed" to be a socialist for god's
sake. He should be made to sit on a spike and eat an inflight meal of raw
turnip. (And be thankful.)

Si


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Old July 18th 03, 08:36 PM
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The RAF could buy the CanForce CC-150 Polaris, #05 (A310-304F). This was
fitted out for long departed Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, as a
VIP Air Force 1 type of a/c. It even has Gold faucets in the bathroom.


Hi

It is actually s/n 15001 that was fitted out as a limited VIP aircraft.
I've been on it and there's nothing spectacular about it even though the
current Prime Minister Jean Chretien described it before he was elected
as a Flying Taj Mahal.

Cheers...Chris


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Old July 18th 03, 08:43 PM
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"Darrell A. Larose" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" ) writes:
"robert arndt" wrote in message
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Rpb


There's actually a larger requirement than just a flying
gin palace for the boy Blair. The RAF's VC-10's are now
seriously long in the tooth as are the Tristar tankers and both
got a lot of flying hours lately supporting ops in Afghanistan and
Iraq.

There's a real need to replace both in the refuelling and
transport role. Its my understanding that 2 bids have been
made

The first from EADS, RR, Cobham and Thales involves
the use of Airbus 330-200 airframes while the other
from BAE Sysytems,Boeing and Serco involves the
use of Boeing 767-300ER airframes.

The RAF could buy the CanForce CC-150 Polaris, #05 (A310-304F). This was
fitted out for long departed Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, as a
VIP Air Force 1 type of a/c. It even has Gold faucets in the bathroom.


I saw two Ju52s flying at Duxford!


Richard.



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Old July 18th 03, 11:41 PM
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Rob


There's actually a larger requirement than just a flying
gin palace for the boy Blair. The RAF's VC-10's are now
seriously long in the tooth as are the Tristar tankers and both
got a lot of flying hours lately supporting ops in Afghanistan and
Iraq.

There's a real need to replace both in the refuelling and
transport role. Its my understanding that 2 bids have been
made

The first from EADS, RR, Cobham and Thales involves
the use of Airbus 330-200 airframes while the other
from BAE Sysytems,Boeing and Serco involves the
use of Boeing 767-300ER airframes.

Keith


The EADS A330-200 sounds reasonable since the current tanker version
is competing for the UK's FSTA program. EADS could also provide an
A310 VIP conversion through EFW if an order were placed...

Rob
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Old July 19th 03, 02:52 AM
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av8r wrote:

Hi Gord

It was a slightly lenghtened North Star airframe with DC-6 landing gear
and the Merlins replaced by P&W's. Canadair only built one of them.
Too bad because any of the pilots that flew them that I talked to had
nothing but the highest praise for it. Apparently it was incredibly
luxurious inside. There was stiff competition to fly the aircraft too.
Just to be a First Officer on the aircraft, you had to have Atlantic
crossing experience and a minimum of 3,000 hours of which 1,000 had to
be four engine time.

Cheers...Chris


Thanks Chris, I know almost nothing of this a/c. What engines did
it use?, I know that they were radials, perhaps R-2800's?...what
became of it?...not scrapped surely?...
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-Gord.
 




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