GPS for airport navigation

I think that GPS can be helpful for airport ground navigation and avoiding
runway incursions. For some reason, I never see this mentioned in any of
the material on runway incursion. It's not perfect, but if you have one in
the cockpit it might help you maintain situational awareness on the ground.

Anyway, here is something that I put together very quickly last night.

http://www.cockpitgps.com/incursion/..._incursion.htm

John Bell
www.cockpitgps.com

Already happening for larger aircraft. Works with the ground prox
warning system.
http://www.aviationweek.com/shownews...avionics01.htm


On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:55:27 GMT, "John Bell"
wrote:

I think that GPS can be helpful for airport ground navigation and avoiding
runway incursions. For some reason, I never see this mentioned in any of
the material on runway incursion. It's not perfect, but if you have one in
the cockpit it might help you maintain situational awareness on the ground.

Anyway, here is something that I put together very quickly last night.

http://www.cockpitgps.com/incursion/..._incursion.htm

John Bell
www.cockpitgps.com

If you use Jeppesen's FliteDeck in conjunction with your GPS, you can
see where your aircraft is the actual aircraft diagram.

-Ted

"John Bell" wrote in message
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I think that GPS can be helpful for airport ground navigation and avoiding
runway incursions. For some reason, I never see this mentioned in any of
the material on runway incursion. It's not perfect, but if you have one
in
the cockpit it might help you maintain situational awareness on the
ground.

Anyway, here is something that I put together very quickly last night.

http://www.cockpitgps.com/incursion/..._incursion.htm

John Bell
www.cockpitgps.com

Thanks for the responses.

I was familiar with the EGPWS enhancement. This looks like a nice system.
However, it is a $15,000 upgrade which is only available if you have the
Honeywell EGPWS that can be upgraded.

I was aware that it was possible to use Jepp software with a Tablet PC and
GPS to get a full airport diagram with aircraft position. This is very
nice.

The GPS map displays that I am familiar with do not have anything more than
an runway diagram. This is not enough to tell you which taxiway that you
are on. But it is enough to help orient yourself on the airport at a quick
glance. I suppose it would be possible to be distracted by the GPS and go
"heads down" too much. However, all that is required operationally is a
couple of quick presses of the zoom button.

My point is just that seeing where you are on a simple runway diagram is
very helpful for situational awareness and many pilots have this capability
with their present equipment whether it is panel mounted or a portable GPS,
but they are not exploiting it. Maybe many pilots are doing this, but the
aviation press nor the FAA ever mentions using the GPS map display on the
ground for situational awareness.

Thanks again,

John Bell
www.cockpitgps.com

If you have not taken the time to review the link given by John, please
listen to the transmissions.

I count twice that the controller tried to get an aircraft to takeoff into
another aircraft. Lucky the captain was on top of his game. I have heard
this before, but it bears re-review. Being PIC means more than following ATC
directions.

Stuart


"John Bell" wrote in message
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I think that GPS can be helpful for airport ground navigation and avoiding
runway incursions. For some reason, I never see this mentioned in any of
the material on runway incursion. It's not perfect, but if you have one
in
the cockpit it might help you maintain situational awareness on the
ground.

Anyway, here is something that I put together very quickly last night.

http://www.cockpitgps.com/incursion/..._incursion.htm

John Bell
www.cockpitgps.com

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:55:27 GMT, "John Bell"
wrote:

I think that GPS can be helpful for airport ground navigation and avoiding
runway incursions. For some reason, I never see this mentioned in any of
the material on runway incursion. It's not perfect, but if you have one in
the cockpit it might help you maintain situational awareness on the ground.

Anyway, here is something that I put together very quickly last night.

http://www.cockpitgps.com/incursion/..._incursion.htm

BTW - This exact situation is covered with in ASF's new runway
incursion flash animation:

http://flash.aopa.org/asf/runwaySafe..._expanding.htm

Choose Chapter 5, then button number 9

aw

I may have posted this before but....
Concord, CA airport was first and perhaps last FAA effort to incorporate a
warning ground system using the marker frequency to advise aircraft of
'hotspots on the airport. It used underground wiring but never seemed to
work properly and was usually out of service.

I wrote to an FAA official who found my web site 'interesting' about the
possibility of putting on the taxiways eight inch ground numbers giving
magnentic headings of taxiways. he rejected the suggestion out of hand.
The next day I found an FAA agency was considering just such an idea.
Reminds me of our national security
systems inability to communicate.

Gene Whitt
"aaronw" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:55:27 GMT, "John Bell"
wrote:

I think that GPS can be helpful for airport ground navigation and
avoiding
runway incursions. For some reason, I never see this mentioned in any of
the material on runway incursion. It's not perfect, but if you have one
in
the cockpit it might help you maintain situational awareness on the
ground.

Anyway, here is something that I put together very quickly last night.

http://www.cockpitgps.com/incursion/..._incursion.htm

BTW - This exact situation is covered with in ASF's new runway
incursion flash animation:


http://flash.aopa.org/asf/runwaySafe..._expanding.htm

Choose Chapter 5, then button number 9

aw

Inadvertent cross-post
\Gene

"John Bell" wrote in message m...
I think that GPS can be helpful for airport ground navigation and avoiding
runway incursions. For some reason, I never see this mentioned in any of
the material on runway incursion. It's not perfect, but if you have one in
the cockpit it might help you maintain situational awareness on the ground.

Anyway, here is something that I put together very quickly last night.

http://www.cockpitgps.com/incursion/..._incursion.htm

John Bell
www.cockpitgps.com

GPS feeding ADS-B would most definitely help. As far as RIRP, I'd
guess that you probably don't see it mentioned much because ASDE-X is
primarily what's used.

I'm sure folks can find a limitless supply of URLs, but here's a
couple of quickie links:

http://www.volpe.dot.gov/ourwork/dts54.html (somewhat dated but a few
blurbs on ASDE-X and Surface related projects in general)

http://spacecomm.grc.nasa.gov/icnsco...01-Leonard.pdf
(good presentation on ADS-B, where this are and where they're going in
(hopefully) the next few years)

Regards,
Jon