Primary Glider Drawings

Tech Support wrote:
Sure nice to have so many comments that are mostly relevant to thread
and beginners glider.

Hear hear!!!

I was thinking about a wing that would support a decently high L/D and
a simple enclosure around pilot to reduce his flat plate drag, built
on a primary glider fuselage frame.

Build time 500 hours or less and transportable home. I'm in my high
80's and don't have 'time' left to build a 10 year project.

What you're describing is the Compact 110 (defunct):

http://home.ptd.net/~jlbaker/compact110.htm

....or the ULF-1:

http://www.eel.de/english/ulf-1_description.htm

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:34:46 +1000, Michael Henry
wrote:

Tech Support wrote:
Sure nice to have so many comments that are mostly relevant to thread
and beginners glider.

Hear hear!!!

I was thinking about a wing that would support a decently high L/D and
a simple enclosure around pilot to reduce his flat plate drag, built
on a primary glider fuselage frame.

Build time 500 hours or less and transportable home. I'm in my high
80's and don't have 'time' left to build a 10 year project.

What you're describing is the Compact 110 (defunct):

http://home.ptd.net/~jlbaker/compact110.htm

...or the ULF-1:

http://www.eel.de/english/ulf-1_description.htm
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Michael

In the ball park of what I was talking about. Will take to bed with me
and look and think on data of those who have gone before me.

Tnx

Big John

Which also linked to . . .

the Sandlin Bug
(Basic Ultralight Glider)

http://home.att.net/~m--sandlin/bug.htm

On Oct 4, 11:35*am, Tech Support wrote:

Veeduber

What would it take to convert a primary into a basic soaring machine
(35+ to 1)?
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Dear John,

I don't know. But I DO know you're comparing apples to
orangutans :-) The subject is Primary Gliders. Their poor glide
ratio -- typically about 8:1 -- is by DESIGN. That is what's needed
to fulfill their mission, which is to expose a fledgling pilot to 3-
axis controls and introduce them to the mechanics of landing.

You would probably find the syllabus used by early flight-training
programs to be of considerable interest.

-R.S.Hoover

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:43:49 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Oct 4, 11:35*am, Tech Support wrote:

Veeduber

What would it take to convert a primary into a basic soaring machine
(35+ to 1)?
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Dear John,

I don't know. But I DO know you're comparing apples to
orangutans :-) The subject is Primary Gliders. Their poor glide
ratio -- typically about 8:1 -- is by DESIGN. That is what's needed
to fulfill their mission, which is to expose a fledgling pilot to 3-
axis controls and introduce them to the mechanics of landing.

You would probably find the syllabus used by early flight-training
programs to be of considerable interest.

-R.S.Hoover
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Understand ur comments but intent of my original post was to get some
ideas on size and airfoil of a wing attached to a Primary Glider
fuselage with a minimual enclosure around pilot that would permit some
basic soaring. All on the cheap and rapid build.

Lots of ideas have been expessed that shot down some of my original
ideas and others that have given me clues on how to meet my original
objectives.

Tnx to all.

Y'all have a nice day and hope you get good news on ur health.

Big John

Perhaps nothing except the basic fundamental understanding of WHAT SNIP
MEANS.


Veeduber

What would it take to convert a primary into a basic soaring machine
(35+ to 1)?.

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:37:22 -0700, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

Perhaps nothing except the basic fundamental understanding of WHAT SNIP
MEANS.


Veeduber

What would it take to convert a primary into a basic soaring machine
(35+ to 1)?.

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RST

Know what snip means but don't have the ability like you to know what
was said back in thread without reading it current. Sure wish I had
that ability and I'd know how election will come out.

Big John