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I'm really not arguing with you, guys; to each his own. But when I hit the
ANR switch on my Telex (which has excellent passive performance) it turns thunder into a whisper; I swear I almost hear the angels singing. Amazing... On a flight to Minneapolis last weekend, I kept hearing a strange rattle. It was driving me crazy after a while, because I couldn't locate the sound. It didn't sound like an engine or prop problem, but nevertheless I was concerned. Strictly by accident, I bumped the key chain hanging from the ignition. The rattle stopped. I was hearing the keys on the keychain jingle softly against each other, with a 6-cylinder, 540 cubic inch piston engine thundering away two feet in front of me... Truly remarkable. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay, do a test... Borrow a portable bottle from someone... Go out at night
and fly around for 45 minutes at 8500 not using the O2... Then, turn it on and while looking right at some lights of the ground put the cannula in your nose and take a half dozen good sniffs... Unless you are an olympic caliber triathelete, you are in for an experience... I presume the lights get brighter/clearer? I have noticed that we tend to get more tired when flying at those altitudes, (kinda nice when the kids nod off!) but I haven't been able to detect any other side effects. We do keep an eye on our fingernails, and try to watch each other for signs of hypoxia, but to date haven't seen any. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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The problem with looking at your fingernails is that the first thing to go
is color discrimination...Right after that judgement goes... Watching the guys in the high altitude chamber is hilarious... They think they are just fine, and they are drunkenly slurred, staggering, unable to write, etc... Denny "Jay Honeck" wrote in message newsCo1b.225121$uu5.42346@sccrnsc04... Jay, do a test... Borrow a portable bottle from someone... Go out at night and fly around for 45 minutes at 8500 not using the O2... Then, turn it on and while looking right at some lights of the ground put the cannula in your nose and take a half dozen good sniffs... Unless you are an olympic caliber triathelete, you are in for an experience... I presume the lights get brighter/clearer? I have noticed that we tend to get more tired when flying at those altitudes, (kinda nice when the kids nod off!) but I haven't been able to detect any other side effects. We do keep an eye on our fingernails, and try to watch each other for signs of hypoxia, but to date haven't seen any. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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$375.00 - $400.00
http://www.flightstat.nonin.com/ http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/cont...lightstat.html http://makeashorterlink.com/?K1C922CA5 (planeandpilotmag.com/content/2003/may/tt ........) http://www.avshop.com/catalog/produc...productid=2190 -- Montblack ("Dennis O'Connor" wrote) Jay, do a test... Borrow a portable bottle from someone... Go out at night and fly around for 45 minutes at 8500 not using the O2... Then, turn it on and while looking right at some lights of the ground put the cannula in your nose and take a half dozen good sniffs... Unless you are an olympic caliber triathelete, you are in for an experience... |
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote:
Don't forget the "You can't hear the engine anymore" argument. Jeeze! It must be the one quote I like from Richard Collins: "ANR is the greatest thing to GA since seat cushions." Yep, but isn't it interesting that some people still don't like ANR? One wonders if there might not be a physiological reason. Perhaps some people have particularly sensitive hearing that can distinguish the not-quite-perfect mirror image phasing that ANR uses. As for myself, after becoming accustomed to ANR, if I had to give it up I have no doubt I would fly less. As Jay said, a long cross country without ANR is a tiresome chore. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Dan,
Yep, but isn't it interesting that some people still don't like ANR? Well, I don't know. They must be a REALLY small minority. I'd guess you'd find a minority for everything on the Internet. Coming back to the original thread subject: Heck, you even find a minority that constantly breaks their headsets gd&r -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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It may well be. I haven't tried an aviation ANR headset in the plane,
tried several at shows though, and they all seem to do it. I have tried some of those low cost ANR headbands Brookstone used to sell in the airplane, and I got the same effect there. So far, the relative noisyness of non-ANR sets has not bothered me enough to get over the discomfort I find with ANR sets.. It is reassuring to know that at least one other person has experienced the same discomfort. I was beginning to think it was all in my head... Ron Natalie wrote: "Ray Andraka" wrote in message ... I don't care for ANR sets. Every one that I have tried gives me a feeling of pressure, sort of like a blocked ear. I don't know why, it shouldn't, but I find it very uncomfortable. I believe this is the effect of the attenuation of certain frequencies. I have noticed as well, not so much in the airplane, but it's almost always present when trying themout in a noisy ambient environment (like the Oshkosh exhibit halls). It's either not present in the plane or I've gotten used to it. -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote:
Coming back to the original thread subject: Heck, you even find a minority that constantly breaks their headsets gd&r Did I mention I sometimes dangle mine out the window when I fly? |
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As a passenger on a flight back home (Denver BJC) from Quincy, IL (UIN) one
night at 8000 MSL I experimented with supplemental O2 use. I used none for the first hour. Everything seemed perfectly normal. Then I put on a cannula. Immediately, with the first couple sniffs, the pale pink instrument lighting became bright red. It made a believer out of me. |
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message Blue fingernails are one of the *last* signs of hypoxia. Unless you had a CO leak or something like that, you'd never have blue fingernails at modest altitudes, even though using oxygen will significantly improve your state of mind. Actually, if you have CO in the cockpit, you won't get cyanosis either, dang insidous thing about CO poisoning is that it leaves the tissues nice and red. |
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