Useless radio transmissions

CFIs, will you please, PLEASE stop teaching students
this stuff?!!! 8^)

On 122.75:
Making 30+ second long position reports, 4500 feet over some
non-descript / podunk town. More annoying when the broadcaster does
so in broken english. Even more annoying when the broadcaster does
so every 5 minutes!

On CTAF:
Announcing that you're taxiing from your parking spot to "the active
runway" at an airport that's the size of an ex-WW2 air base.
Who cares?

On CTAF:
Announcing that you're "Clear of the active". You might think anyone
who is waiting to take off can *see* when you're clear. The only
exception I can think of is a (severely) crowned runway where the
other
end can't be seen from the departure end.

I'll think of some more later.... grins

Bela P. Havasreti

Bela P. Havasreti wrote:
CFIs, will you please, PLEASE stop teaching students

On CTAF:
Announcing that you're "Clear of the active".

How about the fact that uncontrolled fields don't have an "active"?

A pilot can choose any runway he or she feels is best at an uncontrolled
field. I personally don't see a big problem with a quick "7-7-Lima is
clear of two-seven", as you really can't be sure if a waiting aircraft
can see you, especially if this is you're first trip into a destination.

I'm with ya' on the other stuff.

On 2006-08-25, Bela P Havasreti wrote:
On CTAF:
Announcing that you're "Clear of the active". You might think anyone
who is waiting to take off can *see* when you're clear.

You might, but you'd be wrong at some airports, like the one I fly out
of. The only way you can see landing traffic clear the runway is if
they make the last turnoff and you catch sight of the tip of their
tail.

The narrow taxiways and hills also make it useful for people to self-
announce movement on the field. If you're going to the hangars from
the fuel you don't want someone taking the first turnoff and coming
nose-to-nose with you on the taxiway.

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD

http://www.ben.com/

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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How about the fact that uncontrolled fields don't have an "active"?


Of course they do. "Active Runway" means any runway or runways currently
being used for takeoff or landing.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Of course they do. "Active Runway" means any runway or runways currently
being used for takeoff or landing.

And if more than one are in use, how does anyone know which one is
pertinent?

Who declares the "active" at an uncontrolled field?

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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And if more than one are in use, how does anyone know which one is
pertinent?


I'd consider them all pertinent, especially since they probably intersect.



Who declares the "active" at an uncontrolled field?


Whoever chooses the runway.

Dont use "active" at all. Here is why. A pilot approaches the pattern.
He turns his radio on. If all he hears is the other pilots are using
the "active", he doesn't know which runway is in use. And he doesn't
have to ask, if the pilots say the runway number instead of "active".

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:01:44 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote:

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Of course they do. "Active Runway" means any runway or runways currently
being used for takeoff or landing.

And if more than one are in use, how does anyone know which one is
pertinent?

Who declares the "active" at an uncontrolled field?



This happens at an airport near me all the time (just happens to
be an ex-WW2 air base). When the wind is blowing out of the
NW, those who park their airplanes on the east side of the
airport typically use runway 34. Those who park on the SW
side of the airport use runway 29 (I've seen both runways being
used all day long).

Bela P. Havasreti

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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And if more than one are in use, how does anyone know which one is
pertinent?


I'd consider them all pertinent, especially since they probably intersect.


Who declares the "active" at an uncontrolled field?


Whoever chooses the runway.




Fair enough. But how is the term "active" useful to the other pilots
using the uncontrolled airport, vs. the actual runway identifier?

"Bela P. Havasreti" wrote in message
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Making 30+ second long position reports, 4500 feet over some
non-descript / podunk town. More annoying when the broadcaster does
so in broken english. Even more annoying when the broadcaster does
so every 5 minutes!

Even more annoying when the broadcaster neglects to mention what airport.


"Ummmm...... Cessna 1...2...3....4....5 is um......... Turning left
um............ Downwind...............
um.......................... For the ummmm...........

active runway........



um........

Cessna um..... 1.....2......3......4......5