where to see routes on internet?

Hey, sorry to be kind of crashing this group since I'm not a pilot.

I bet y'all can help me though.

My current house in the Warm Beach area of Stanwood, Wa 98292 gets
buzzed by small planes all the time - I seem to be on some sort of
regular "route" for planes from Seattle to the San Juans?

Well I'll be moving pretty soon - probably to Athens, GA - and I don't
wish to make the same mistake of locating myself in a neighborhood
that's regularly buzzed over again.

Is there some website I can go to with maps or whatever that will allow
me to find whether a given neighborhood will have busy overhead
traffic, whether small planes or airliners?

Thanks.

You can purchase a chart (map) of the local airways anywhere in the
country. However I would suggest you contact the local Flight Standard
District Office (FSDO) in Atlanta and ask about the local air traffic
from different airports. They are located at:

Altanta FSDO
1701 Columbia Avenue
College Park, GA 30337
(404) 305-7200

Ask to speak to a pilot or operations person.

Small aircraft can fly from 500 feet and up, most stay above 1,000
feet, but it still makes a lot of noise. The FAA operations person can
explain this to you and let you know which small airports are in the
area you want to live.

Stache

Buy a place as close as possible to a nuclear power plant,
or a presidential residence or get ear plugs. Airplanes can
fly almost anywhere. Best to live in a all concrete jungle
so there are no leaf blowers or lawn mowers. A small town
without bus service will be quiet.
Cozumel should be very quiet, but you'll need a boat.



"Bejeeber" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Hey, sorry to be kind of crashing this group since I'm not
a pilot.
|
| I bet y'all can help me though.
|
| My current house in the Warm Beach area of Stanwood, Wa
98292 gets
| buzzed by small planes all the time - I seem to be on
some sort of
| regular "route" for planes from Seattle to the San Juans?
|
| Well I'll be moving pretty soon - probably to Athens, GA -
and I don't
| wish to make the same mistake of locating myself in a
neighborhood
| that's regularly buzzed over again.
|
| Is there some website I can go to with maps or whatever
that will allow
| me to find whether a given neighborhood will have busy
overhead
| traffic, whether small planes or airliners?
|
| Thanks.
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
Buy a place as close as possible to a nuclear power plant,
or a presidential residence or get ear plugs. Airplanes can
fly almost anywhere.

The guy was not one of the nutjobs who want to close
all airports because they inconvenience him (except when they
actually do need transportation), but he asked politely how
to find information that might help him choose a better place
for him when he moves.

I mean, we do criticize (and rightfully so) people who move
near an airport and then complain about it, but this guy is
actually taking steps to avoid doing just that. Why not
give him some useful info?

The only thing I could think of for him to do would be to
get the relevant sectional and terminal charts and ask a
local pilot to interpret them for him. I'd be more than
happy to do that if he was moving nearby.

--Sylvain

On 28 Oct 2006 20:02:01 -0700, "Bejeeber"
wrote in .com:

Is there some website I can go to with maps or whatever that will allow
me to find whether a given neighborhood will have busy overhead
traffic, whether small planes or airliners?

You'll find aviation charts he http://skyvector.com/

You can view flight tracks he http://atcmonitor.com/
http://atcmonitor.com/atlanta/screen.html

Thanks Stache - I'll be calling that # to get info.

I think part of my problem here is that we're sort of on a bluff near
the water, so planes that are well above 1,000 feet over the water are
kinda low when they go over our house, and the reason I'm thinking
we're on some kind of regular route is both the frequency with which
planes pass over, and the fact that I can often look straight up thru
my kitchen skylight and see the plane zip past (!!!).

"Bejeeber" wrote in message
oups.com...
[...]
My current house in the Warm Beach area of Stanwood, Wa 98292 gets
buzzed by small planes all the time - I seem to be on some sort of
regular "route" for planes from Seattle to the San Juans?

Well I'll be moving pretty soon - probably to Athens, GA - and I don't
wish to make the same mistake of locating myself in a neighborhood
that's regularly buzzed over again.

Is there some website I can go to with maps or whatever that will allow
me to find whether a given neighborhood will have busy overhead
traffic, whether small planes or airliners?

While Stanwood is pretty much directly between Arlington Airport and the San
Juan Islands, I've got bad news for you: you aren't actually on any "regular
route". You live in an somewhat urban area, which means airplanes are
flying around all the time. Some are going to or from the San Juans...most
are just flying around for other reasons.

You will have the same issue in any urban area. Nor is there any reliable
means of identifying "regular routes" for all but the largest airplanes
going to and from a large commercial airport. General aviation traffic is
*much* less uniform than that.

That said, if you are really interested, one thing that you can do is try to
see if the local ATC radar facility (at Athens, that's probably Atlanta
Center...possibly it would be close enough that Atlanta Approach would be
useful too) can provide you with a daily or weekly chart of the radar
returns. I know here in the Seattle area, Seattle Approach makes those
available if one asks, and they provide a decent idea of where the most
dense air traffic is.

Keeping in mind, of course, that such a graph will be dominated by
commercial airliners. Smaller airplanes will constitute a relatively small
portion of the total traffic, and some of the general aviation traffic won't
even be on the chart, due to flying below reliable radar coverage. But at
least you can avoid the worst that way.

That said, my guess is that if you are annoyed by the relatively light
traffic that goes over the Stanwood area, you are unlikely to find true
"peace and quiet" unless you avoid living near any significant city at all.
Most of us probably wouldn't characterize the amount of air traffic in the
Stanwood area as being "buzzed by small planes all the time" (to me, "all
the time" implies a relatively constant flow of traffic, which I am sure
does not exist in the Stanwood area, given how light air traffic is in and
around that area when I fly through it).

So I wouldn't get your hopes up. You should probably make sure whatever
house you buy has good quality double- or triple-paned windows and make your
own quiet.

Pete

"Sylvain" wrote in message
...
Jim Macklin wrote:
Buy a place as close as possible to a nuclear power plant,
or a presidential residence or get ear plugs. Airplanes can
fly almost anywhere.

The guy was not one of the nutjobs who want to close
all airports because they inconvenience him (except when they
actually do need transportation), but he asked politely how
to find information that might help him choose a better place
for him when he moves.

I mean, we do criticize (and rightfully so) people who move
near an airport and then complain about it, but this guy is
actually taking steps to avoid doing just that. Why not
give him some useful info?

The only thing I could think of for him to do would be to
get the relevant sectional and terminal charts and ask a
local pilot to interpret them for him. I'd be more than
happy to do that if he was moving nearby.

I agree.

(My 2 cents) When I was looking for a house in McAllen, TX (MFE), I noted
where the airport was and the houses I was looking at. My friends (and
realtor) kept asking me why I was avoiding certain neighborhoods and I
mentioned that the airlines seem to pass over those. Most realtors don't
have a clue about that.

I have a friend in Cedar Rapids (CID) that lives in the same neighborhood as
the local (head?) controller lives, thus very few planes fly over his house.

Peter Duniho wrote:

You will have the same issue in any urban area. Nor is there any reliable
means of identifying "regular routes" for all but the largest airplanes
going to and from a large commercial airport. General aviation traffic is
*much* less uniform than that.

however, there are a number of things that a local pilot might help
identify; for instance, the usual/commonly used reporting points
when coming in to land at the local fields, the 'practice areas'
used by the local clubs/FBOs, the local places used to practice
aerobatics, the usual sight seeing locations, the route the locals
like to follow for easy navigation, or because it avoids some busy
airspace, or because there is a really cool onfield restaurant,
etc. I mean, it's not 100% reliable of course, but it could be
a start.

--Sylvain

There is a job title, real estate agent... Airplanes are a
fact of life. Just as waterfowl migrate, airplanes migrate.
Some things are daily and some are seasonal, like football
season near a college town.

He has the mistaken I'd that airplanes follow routes and
they do to an extant near terminal areas, particularly Class
B airspace.



"Sylvain" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Buy a place as close as possible to a nuclear power
plant,
| or a presidential residence or get ear plugs. Airplanes
can
| fly almost anywhere.
|
| The guy was not one of the nutjobs who want to close
| all airports because they inconvenience him (except when
they
| actually do need transportation), but he asked politely
how
| to find information that might help him choose a better
place
| for him when he moves.
|
| I mean, we do criticize (and rightfully so) people who
move
| near an airport and then complain about it, but this guy
is
| actually taking steps to avoid doing just that. Why not
| give him some useful info?
|
| The only thing I could think of for him to do would be to
| get the relevant sectional and terminal charts and ask a
| local pilot to interpret them for him. I'd be more than
| happy to do that if he was moving nearby.
|
| --Sylvain
|
|