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Old April 11th 04, 08:45 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Javier,

Then you know negative reviews...

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Old April 11th 04, 08:56 AM
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Bob,

the first book by John Deakin, just out now (see his latest column on
Avweb).

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Old April 11th 04, 08:56 AM
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Michael,

Writing is a learned skill.


Disagree. Strongly. There's a lot about writing that you can learn. But
there's also a large, probably major, part that you can't.

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Old April 11th 04, 02:01 PM
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Disagree. Strongly. There's a lot about writing that you can learn. But
there's also a large, probably major, part that you can't.


Interesting theory. I tend to agree, although I can't quantify my answer.

All I know is this: People who can speak eloquently cannot necessarily
write well -- even though all they would have to do is write down PRECISELY
what they just finished saying.

I once had a boss who was the most eloquent guy in the world. He could
speak on any subject, thoughtfully, for hours -- and the words just
naturally came out with proper sentence structure. His thoughts were
clearly organized into logical, progressive paragraphs.

Yet, in writing, he was a blathering idiot -- virtually illiterate. I still
get one-sentence emails from him, with misspelled words and no structure at
all. He simply can't translate his thoughts into writing.

This has always been a mystery to me -- it's like their internal tape
recorder is broken?
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Old April 11th 04, 05:11 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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All I know is this: People who can speak eloquently cannot necessarily
write well -- even though all they would have to do is write down

PRECISELY
what they just finished saying.

I once had a boss who was the most eloquent guy in the world. He could
speak on any subject, thoughtfully, for hours -- and the words just
naturally came out with proper sentence structure. His thoughts were
clearly organized into logical, progressive paragraphs.

Yet, in writing, he was a blathering idiot -- virtually illiterate. I

still
get one-sentence emails from him, with misspelled words and no structure

at
all. He simply can't translate his thoughts into writing.



Back in my college days, while studying to be a teacher, (NO- all the
dinosaurs were gone by then) one of my techniques of teaching professors, Dr
Bethard, addressed this phenomenon. He believed it has something to do with
the difference in pace between speaking and writing.

Many of us can understand why it possible to write well but speak with less
eloquence. Obviously, one can reread and edit the written, whereas the
words are there NOW!

Dr. Bethard felt that the reason writing was difficult for some "well
spoken" folks was they couldn't get their thoughts "on paper" fast enough,
and the continuity was lost.

Seems to me the Doc has a pretty good theory there.

Gary - who ALWAYS needs editing - Kasten


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Old April 11th 04, 09:27 PM
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In article , Dave wrote:
Is it me, or has Flying become among the worst GA magazines to read?


I gave up with 'Flying' years ago. It seemed if you weren't burning
kerosene, or at least turbocharged, you weren't worth a bucket of warm
spit.

The other thing about 'Flying' was each year of the magazine was more or
less identical with the words just ordered a bit differently.

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Old April 11th 04, 09:35 PM
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In article , Javier Henderson wrote:
Same here. I remember one of the first Flying issues I read had a
review of the MD11. Obviously, an airplane I will never fly as PIC,
and yet it was interesting to read. Same with the slew of Citations,
Lears, King Airs, and what have you that get reviewed.


The trouble with 'Flying' is that's pretty much all it is, that and
rehashed articles.

The mag that gets it really right I think is the British magazine,
"Pilot". It has stuff about bizjets. But it also has stuff about
microlights, helicopters, gyroplanes, normal light aircraft, vintage
aircraft, safety stuff and some very good trip reports by people flying
normal GA singles on real proper go-places trips all over the world.

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Old April 11th 04, 11:19 PM
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In article , Bob Fry wrote:
made, and thus little new blood. We've all noticed the nearly 100%
old farts at airports and fly-ins; few young people, with their energy
and creativity, can afford or are interested in flying.


Few people are interested in flying, period. There are as many young
people who are as old people - but as you point out, they don't have the
money. I didn't have the money until I was 25, and 6 years later, I
still find myself in about the youngest 10%, because most others my age
have done silly things like get married and have children!

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Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
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Old April 12th 04, 01:57 AM
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Gary - who ALWAYS needs editing - Kasten

You're not alone.
Hemingway said,"Every writer needs a good crap detector."
That's what an editor's for.

vince norris
 




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