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  #11  
Old May 28th 08, 01:06 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
PaPaPeng
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'

On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:51:23 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:



Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August' Won't work. Bush had
stated that he will attend the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremony (Aug
8).


Interesting.

Half the European leaders have already pulled out of that particular chance
for a free dinner.


That a stretch seeing that Merkel, Brown and Sarkozy had never said
they were going in the first place. You can't withdraw from an event
that you were not going to. Its too late for them to change their
minds now. The same thing with Steven Spielberg withdrawing his
services. He never had a contract to do anything for the Beijing
Olympics. When that was pointed out to him we didn't hear a peep from
him since. Mia Farrow? Who's she?

It's possible he needs an excuse to get out of it and he thinks (yes, I
know...) that bombing somewhere is preferable to appearing on a platform
with the Chinese tyrants...


That will indeed be an interesting development. Let's see if Bush can
swing it.

--
William Black


  #12  
Old May 28th 08, 05:14 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
Airyx
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'

On May 27, 7:11*pm, NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
wrote:

Why does anyone answer posts from this guy?

He has claimed an attack is imminent on at least a dozen occasions
(usually when a unit rotation occurs). For example, each time the 5th
fleet deployed carrier changed-over, he claimed it was an indication
of an attack.

He claimed an attack would occur on Feb 21, 2007

When that didn't happen he gave a generic "Spring 2007"

Then he gave a date of August, 2007 based on GOP primary dates.

Interesting enough his "predictions" for 2008 are the same as 2007
(Feb 21, Spring, August).

Just query his posts...


  #13  
Old May 28th 08, 08:02 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
Jeffrey Hamilton
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'


"Airyx" wrote in message
...
On May 27, 7:11 pm, NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
wrote:

Why does anyone answer posts from this guy?

He has claimed an attack is imminent on at least a dozen occasions
(usually when a unit rotation occurs). For example, each time the 5th
fleet deployed carrier changed-over, he claimed it was an indication
of an attack.

He claimed an attack would occur on Feb 21, 2007

When that didn't happen he gave a generic "Spring 2007"

Then he gave a date of August, 2007 based on GOP primary dates.

Interesting enough his "predictions" for 2008 are the same as 2007
(Feb 21, Spring, August).

Just query his posts...

***Who exactly are _you_ posting to ?
If it wasn't for your post, I wouldn't have even seen the subject who is
already in _my_killfile.
Just killfile him and have done with it.

cheers.....Jeff



  #14  
Old May 29th 08, 04:58 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
JJS[_2_]
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'

In article ,
wrote:

On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:51:23 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:



Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August' Won't work. Bush had
stated that he will attend the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremony (Aug
8).


Interesting.

Half the European leaders have already pulled out of that particular chance
for a free dinner.


That a stretch seeing that Merkel, Brown and Sarkozy had never said
they were going in the first place. You can't withdraw from an event
that you were not going to. Its too late for them to change their
minds now. The same thing with Steven Spielberg withdrawing his
services. He never had a contract to do anything for the Beijing
Olympics.


You really believe he didn't know his contractual situation regarding
the Olympics? Rather strange wouldn't you say for someone involved
in a business neck deep in contracts.


When that was pointed out to him we didn't hear a peep from
him since.


Why should we hear a peep from him? He simply walked away from
the situation and got on with his life. He just released a movie
or didn't you hear?

Joe

Mia Farrow? Who's she?

It's possible he needs an excuse to get out of it and he thinks (yes, I
know...) that bombing somewhere is preferable to appearing on a platform
with the Chinese tyrants...


That will indeed be an interesting development. Let's see if Bush can
swing it.

--
William Black

  #15  
Old May 29th 08, 07:22 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
PaPaPeng
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'

On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:58:38 -0700, (JJS)
wrote:

In article ,

wrote:

On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:51:23 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:



Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August' Won't work. Bush had
stated that he will attend the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremony (Aug
8).

Interesting.

Half the European leaders have already pulled out of that particular chance
for a free dinner.


That a stretch seeing that Merkel, Brown and Sarkozy had never said
they were going in the first place. You can't withdraw from an event
that you were not going to. Its too late for them to change their
minds now. The same thing with Steven Spielberg withdrawing his
services. He never had a contract to do anything for the Beijing
Olympics.


You really believe he didn't know his contractual situation regarding
the Olympics? Rather strange wouldn't you say for someone involved
in a business neck deep in contracts.


Exactly.


Chinese envoy says he would have not disclosed meeting with Spielberg
without resignation claim
February 28, 2008
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...3/6362228.html

Visiting Chinese government's special representative for Darfur, Liu
Guijin, Wednesday said had the so-called resignation event not taken
place he would have not revealed his meeting last September with
Hollywood director Steven Spielberg.

"The so-called resignation announced by Mr. Spielberg is really a big
surprise to me," Liu told a news conference held at the Chinese
embassy in Khartoum at the end of a four-day visit in Sudan.

Liu said he had told reporters several days ago in London that he met
with Spielberg in New York last September. At that time, "Mr.
Spielberg is no longer an artistic adviser to the Beijing Olympics
since he had not signed a contract before the deadline. That is what I
learnt from the Beijing Organizing Committee for the Games of the XXIX
Olympiad," he explained.

"But I told Mr. Spielberg that though you are no longer an artistic
advisor for the Beijing Olympics, I am still ready to exchange views
over issues in which you are interested," said the envoy, adding that
he spent over one hour on the meeting and tell Spielberg what the
Chinese side had done for the settlement of the Darfur issue.

After listening to Liu's introduction, Spielberg expressed his
gratitude, saying that he would do what he thought he should do for
the success of the Beijing Olympics whether he was or not an artistic
advisor, according to the envoy.

Liu said he personally have no ill feeling towards Spielberg.
"Instead, personally I respect him very much. I can understand the
pressure he is facing," said Liu.

Once again, Liu rejected attempts to link the Beijing Olympics to what
has happened in Sudan's Darfur, warning that to politicize the Olympic
Games will be very harmful in the long run as there would be abundant
attempts in the future to link the Olympic Games to politics.

"The friendly and cooperative relations between China and Sudanhad
already come into being before February of 2003 when infighting flared
up in Darfur," he said. "China is having normal relations with Sudan,
just like China's relations with other African nations. So we firmly
oppose any attempt to politicize Chinese-Sudanese relations."

Liu arrived in the Sudanese capital early Sunday after visiting
Britain. It is his fourth visit to this Africa's largest nation since
his appointment last May.

On Tuesday, Liu flew into South Darfur's capital city Nyala for a
one-day visit to assess security and humanitarian situations there. It
was his second visit to Darfur since his appointment.

Following Sudan, Liu is scheduled to leave for Paris in the early hour
on Thursday for a brief visit and then tour to another African nation
Chad.

Liu, a 62-year-old veteran diplomat and former Chinese ambassador to
Zimbabwe and South Africa, has been engaged in African affairs for
more than 25 years.

Since last May, he had paid three visits to Sudan and also shuttled
between the United States, Britain, Egypt, Libya and other countries
concerned, making unremitting efforts to resolve the Darfur issue.

Source: Xinhua


  #16  
Old May 29th 08, 08:49 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
JJS[_2_]
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'

In article ,
wrote:

On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:58:38 -0700,
(JJS)
wrote:

In article ,

wrote:

On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:51:23 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:



Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August' Won't work. Bush had
stated that he will attend the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremony (Aug
8).

Interesting.

Half the European leaders have already pulled out of that particular

chance
for a free dinner.

That a stretch seeing that Merkel, Brown and Sarkozy had never said
they were going in the first place. You can't withdraw from an event
that you were not going to. Its too late for them to change their
minds now. The same thing with Steven Spielberg withdrawing his
services. He never had a contract to do anything for the Beijing
Olympics.


You really believe he didn't know his contractual situation regarding
the Olympics? Rather strange wouldn't you say for someone involved
in a business neck deep in contracts.


Exactly.



Just a thought but Mr. Lui as a ³veteran diplomat and former Chinese
ambassador² may be doing what we in the US call ³spin².

If by September Spielberg was no longer an artistic adviser to the
Beijing Olympics why wasn¹t it mentioned at that time? This is one of
the highest profile Americans involved in the coming Olympic games so
it would be news worth reporting and at the same time allow the Chinese
government to distance itself from a possible problem. We¹re left with
either miscommunication between China and Spielberg, a miss-information
campaign or just a royal screw up by someone in the Chinese Olympic
organization. Take your pick.

Joe



Chinese envoy says he would have not disclosed meeting with Spielberg
without resignation claim
February 28, 2008
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...3/6362228.html

Visiting Chinese government's special representative for Darfur, Liu
Guijin, Wednesday said had the so-called resignation event not taken
place he would have not revealed his meeting last September with
Hollywood director Steven Spielberg.

"The so-called resignation announced by Mr. Spielberg is really a big
surprise to me," Liu told a news conference held at the Chinese
embassy in Khartoum at the end of a four-day visit in Sudan.

Liu said he had told reporters several days ago in London that he met
with Spielberg in New York last September. At that time, "Mr.
Spielberg is no longer an artistic adviser to the Beijing Olympics
since he had not signed a contract before the deadline. That is what I
learnt from the Beijing Organizing Committee for the Games of the XXIX
Olympiad," he explained.

"But I told Mr. Spielberg that though you are no longer an artistic
advisor for the Beijing Olympics, I am still ready to exchange views
over issues in which you are interested," said the envoy, adding that
he spent over one hour on the meeting and tell Spielberg what the
Chinese side had done for the settlement of the Darfur issue.

After listening to Liu's introduction, Spielberg expressed his
gratitude, saying that he would do what he thought he should do for
the success of the Beijing Olympics whether he was or not an artistic
advisor, according to the envoy.

Liu said he personally have no ill feeling towards Spielberg.
"Instead, personally I respect him very much. I can understand the
pressure he is facing," said Liu.

Once again, Liu rejected attempts to link the Beijing Olympics to what
has happened in Sudan's Darfur, warning that to politicize the Olympic
Games will be very harmful in the long run as there would be abundant
attempts in the future to link the Olympic Games to politics.

"The friendly and cooperative relations between China and Sudanhad
already come into being before February of 2003 when infighting flared
up in Darfur," he said. "China is having normal relations with Sudan,
just like China's relations with other African nations. So we firmly
oppose any attempt to politicize Chinese-Sudanese relations."

Liu arrived in the Sudanese capital early Sunday after visiting
Britain. It is his fourth visit to this Africa's largest nation since
his appointment last May.

On Tuesday, Liu flew into South Darfur's capital city Nyala for a
one-day visit to assess security and humanitarian situations there. It
was his second visit to Darfur since his appointment.

Following Sudan, Liu is scheduled to leave for Paris in the early hour
on Thursday for a brief visit and then tour to another African nation
Chad.

Liu, a 62-year-old veteran diplomat and former Chinese ambassador to
Zimbabwe and South Africa, has been engaged in African affairs for
more than 25 years.

Since last May, he had paid three visits to Sudan and also shuttled
between the United States, Britain, Egypt, Libya and other countries
concerned, making unremitting efforts to resolve the Darfur issue.

Source: Xinhua

  #18  
Old May 30th 08, 11:36 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
Eugene Griessel
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'

Vincent Brannigan wrote:

PaPaPeng wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2008 12:49:45 -0700, (JJS)
wrote:


Just a thought but Mr. Lui as a ³veteran diplomat and former Chinese
ambassador² may be doing what we in the US call ³spin².



Chinese don't do the Washington spin thing. The blowback is not worth
the trouble as Dubya should realize by now. Anyway the former
ambassador was on his way to a higher post in Beijing. It's very rare
for a career official to make a personal comment. This article was a
lucky catch on an important point. Do realize that had there been a
contract with Spielberg there is a fine point in law called A Breach
of Contract. Spielberg would have been sued off his pants for
unilaterally and impulsively breaking it. Its safe to assume he will
never work in China again. Same with Sharon Stone and some rude pop
diva.



it is certainly safe to say it about about any person who offends the
leaderships of a thuggish authoritarian country with a tightly enforced
party line

One day perhaps China will grow up into a real country that tolerates
and encourages diverse opinions for their own sake


While China is growing up could PaPaPeng grow up too? And desist from
posting until he does?

Eugene L Griessel

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- I usually post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
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Old May 30th 08, 01:36 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
PaPaPeng
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Default Bush 'Plans Iran Air Strike by August'

On Fri, 30 May 2008 10:28:48 GMT, Vincent Brannigan
wrote:

PaPaPeng wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2008 12:49:45 -0700, (JJS)
wrote:


Just a thought but Mr. Lui as a ³veteran diplomat and former Chinese
ambassador² may be doing what we in the US call ³spin².



Chinese don't do the Washington spin thing. The blowback is not worth
the trouble as Dubya should realize by now. Anyway the former
ambassador was on his way to a higher post in Beijing. It's very rare
for a career official to make a personal comment. This article was a
lucky catch on an important point. Do realize that had there been a
contract with Spielberg there is a fine point in law called A Breach
of Contract. Spielberg would have been sued off his pants for
unilaterally and impulsively breaking it. Its safe to assume he will
never work in China again. Same with Sharon Stone and some rude pop
diva.



it is certainly safe to say it about about any person who offends the
leaderships of a thuggish authoritarian country with a tightly enforced
party line



The Government of China does not sully herself responding to stupid
individuals. There is no Nixon type or Bush type "enemies list." The
Government of China does not hire individuals or outside firms to
advice it on policies and on PR matters. There are no neocon think
tanks and dual loyalty high officials who can turn China upside down
for the benefit of another country. Only Americans do that. When
stupid individuals attack China on issues where China is univocally
the innocent party the popular resentment and anger is real and across
the whole country. No business agent, no organizer will be so stupid
as to have any further dealings with these people and organizations
ever. They will never work again in China.

As for thuggish etc. do compare the welcome China's leaders get when
they visit countries in the rest of the world. Real work gets done and
billions of dollars in bilateral projects gets signed. Bush gets their
riots squads out and the rioters into the headlines even when he
visits supposed friendly allies such as Britian, Germany, France and
Australia. That kind of photo op he doesn't need. Bush and the EU
leader seldom if ever dare to venture out on state visits and they
seldom get invited to do so anyway. Results man. Results. I's not
what you want to believe in. It's what is happening around you that
matters and whether that gives the desired results.

One day perhaps China will grow up into a real country that tolerates
and encourages diverse opinions for their own sake

Vince


Fundamentalist Christians. Church for sex with multiple underaged
brides. Racial tensions with blacks, hispanics, rednecks, Muslims.
Unsafe streets. Gay marriages. Schools that cannot provide basic
el-hi education. A health care delivery system that is the most costly
scandal on this planet. Infrastructure that is falling apart. The
inability to produce a (presidential hopeful) leader that most people
can agree on or at least not subject to some vicious and divisive
attack on fundamental competency and morals. Business leaders whose
greed and incompetence have bankrupted the wealthiest country on this
planet. Destroyed the middle class now fearful for their future in
retirement. A President who is clueless to let this all happen on his
watch. A President who cannot claim a single positive achivement in
his entire two terms in office. A President who fabricated evidence to
invade and destroy a country, killing a million and maiming much more
and who continues to do so for so crass a purpose as to steal their
oil. And failed to succeed. A military that is forced to scrape the
dregs of society to find recruits. A government that abandons these
same soldiers to their horrible wounds.... much much more. If that's
diversity thank you but no thanks.
 




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