Ren Yenc

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Oviedo added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same
post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water.
Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%.

You are entirely wrong. The spec for yEnc itself quotes the number,
I didn't, but since you're obviously so ignorant, try posting the
exact same JPEG with Uuencode and with yEnc and see for yourself.
The actual size of the binary doesn't change, of course, but almost
all of the Uue overhead is eliminated by yEnc resulting in a much
smaller as-posted size. Were it not for this fact, why would it
have been invented and why would so many people, all far more
knowledgeable then you, quote the same reduction?

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


And why, oh utterly knowledgeable one, don't you get a decent provider and
connection, thus making all this stupid encoding completely redundant and
looking as backward as the 18th century?

Regards,
Herman

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JRW wrote:

Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you
can choose what you want to see.

Why flood images that are not your own the floods are of images redaly
availible on the USAF/ NASA and USN sites.

Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do
THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol
You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue.
No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it
because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their
posts.
That is why they are never original work


They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks
that would view them.

Because you can see them on the originating sites.

I agree a few dozen a day is best.
No one is "waiting" for these.

Why wait when you can visit the original sites


A few posts like you said per day would
be great.
You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame!

Not a shame to killfile if the work were their own like Glen/Dale and
others then it might be a shame but your right it is a I dont give a rats
ass attitude toward others that has all but started to ruin this group.

So flood away and post in YENC no use complaining you just need to go to
the NASA site and you will find most if not all the photos that have been
posted. You might also want to visit the USAF site for the high rez shots
there.

Let them flood and post just killfile them and trust me you are not
missing anything.

Hear, hear!

Regards,
Herman

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"Oviedo" schreef in bericht
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yEnc is an encoding scheme, not a graphics format. It can be
used to post any type of binary. It's primary advantage is a
reduction in the as-posted size of a file by some 39% over
the more common Uuencode. It seems that the most often cited
reason for universal hatred of yEnc is that Outhouse
Depressed doesn't support it, a rather weak argument at
best.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on
Usenet


Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the
same post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold
water. Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%.

And besides: With todays connections (whispers: broadband),
who needs these stupid compression programs?
Just post your pictures as is, of course after getting a
decent provider who will offer you a broadband connection. To
all you yEnc fans: wake up to the 21st century. You don't have
to use dial-up connections anymore. I have broadband. Next
month I will be connected to a glass-fibre network that is
being installed in the whole town I live in, so my connection
speed will be even higher. Stop farting around with your
stupid encoding end get a useful provider.

another stupid Luddite Outhouse Depressed owner speaketh. why
don't you just get a real news reader and you won't have to rail
against the users of yEnc any longer.

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet

Herman added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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And why, oh utterly knowledgeable one, don't you get a decent
provider and connection, thus making all this stupid encoding
completely redundant and looking as backward as the 18th
century?

Lot more knowledgeable than you, but to answer your question, I
have a good provider and I also have a real news reader so the
entire yEnc debate is moot. now, go away, numbnuts, you bore me.

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet

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JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at
least you can choose what you want to see.
Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud
mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol
You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a
clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing
else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying
whazzo if anyone looks at their posts.
They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of
the folks that would view them.
I agree a few dozen a day is best.
No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per
day would be great.
You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn
shame!

What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to
open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG
has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max
posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ
should be adopted to guide people.

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


True, you don't have to open every post.
But when some moron decides to flood the NG with 15,000 posts, at J3 did
recently, this is bound to cause problems. There are people active who post
in formats / numbers that most people do not appreciate. But they still go
ahead, just because they can. An enforceable FAQ is not neccessary when
people just apply some common sense and remember what mommy told them about
good manners.

Regards,
Herman

"michael hoare" wrote in message
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I dont care if its been said a thousand times i fail to see the point
of encrypting entries so that they cant be viewed without downloading some
other crap to view them ....whats the purpose of it ..what purpose does
it serve besides ****ing off those who cant view the pics i really dont
see the point of it all
Mick H

I appreciate both sides of the argument but, given Yenc has been out for
years and it still hasn't gained any significant market space it's a proven
dud.

As for getting additional plugins or other news readers, why bother? The
ones most of us use have been serving us perfectly well for over a decade,
cost nothing, and the newer readers don't seem to offer any significant
improvements.

I haven't read the whole thread, and likely won't, but perhaps someone
can tell me - are the two sides acting like children and calling each
other assholes yet?

Waldo.

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Martin Helms added these comments in the current discussion du
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This is exactly the same I am using, however, the problem with
the most recent YEnc posts lies within you last sentence, "so
long as the yEnc is written into the subject heading".
Unfortunately, the person posting it (oh so wiesly chosing
yEnc as a handle) ignored this most important rule about yEnc.

It is imparative the term is to be included in the subject
line so that either we can read the posts or others, who
simply do not wish to read yEn posts at all (for w/e reason)
can properly filter them.

Properly written apps will either automatically add "yEnc" to the
subject line or require the poster to add it.

Some folks really seem to be lacking certain manners... :/

What does using yEnc have to do with manners? This is much to do
about nothing and the entire debate is because the Luddites who
insist on using Outhouse Depressed instead of a real news reader
can't decode yEnc.

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HP, aka Jerry

Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet


You are very proud of your wordplay, it appears, but this does not alter
the fact that many people use OE.
yEnc is a toy for people who insist on showing that they are clever.
Well, good for you. You are a clever boy, now go and do something useful,
like posting pictures as is. If you use a decent provider and connection
there is no need for these silly programs.

Grow up.

Regards,
Herman

"Waldo.Pepper" schreef in bericht
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I haven't read the whole thread, and likely won't, but perhaps someone
can tell me - are the two sides acting like children and calling each
other assholes yet?

Waldo.

Not yet.
But it won't be long now :-(

Regards,
Herman

michael hoare wrote:
I dont care if its been said a thousand times i fail to see the
point of encrypting entries so that they cant be viewed without
downloading some other crap to view them ....whats the purpose of it
..what purpose does it serve besides ****ing off those who cant view the
pics i really dont see the point of it all
Mick H