Microsoft strikes again

I have used Windows Live Mail for a while and it handled binary newsgroups
reasonably well. i.e. click on a message and the message and any contained
picture would pop up.

Now the geniuses at Microsoft have come up with an "improved" version of
WLM. This requires me to double click on a message to bring up a thumbnail
image and I then have to double click on the thumbnail to bring up Windows
Photo Viewer so that I can actually see the image properly. After that,
unless I want myriad sessions of WPV running, I have to close the viewer and
close the thumbnail pane to begin the whole rigmarole once more for the
next image. Mumble, chunter, grumble......

There does not seem to be an easy way to revert to the previous version of
WLM

Am I being ultra-dense, or is there an alternative?

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

The only alternative is to go through another browser like Firefox. I've got
Windows 7 on my laptop and hate trying to go through the Live mail to get to
the newsgroups. There are some stand-alones that you can access, but I
haven't checked them out myself yet.


"Indrek Aaviso" wrote in message
...
I have used Windows Live Mail for a while and it handled binary newsgroups
reasonably well. i.e. click on a message and the message and any contained
picture would pop up.

Now the geniuses at Microsoft have come up with an "improved" version of
WLM. This requires me to double click on a message to bring up a thumbnail
image and I then have to double click on the thumbnail to bring up Windows
Photo Viewer so that I can actually see the image properly. After that,
unless I want myriad sessions of WPV running, I have to close the viewer
and close the thumbnail pane to begin the whole rigmarole once more for
the next image. Mumble, chunter, grumble......

There does not seem to be an easy way to revert to the previous version of
WLM

Am I being ultra-dense, or is there an alternative?

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

The only alternative is to go through another browser like Firefox. I've got
Windows 7 on my laptop and hate trying to go through the Live mail to get to
the newsgroups. There are some stand-alones that you can access, but I
haven't checked them out myself yet.


"Indrek Aaviso" wrote in message
...
I have used Windows Live Mail for a while and it handled binary newsgroups
reasonably well. i.e. click on a message and the message and any contained
picture would pop up.

Now the geniuses at Microsoft have come up with an "improved" version of
WLM. This requires me to double click on a message to bring up a thumbnail
image and I then have to double click on the thumbnail to bring up Windows
Photo Viewer so that I can actually see the image properly. After that,
unless I want myriad sessions of WPV running, I have to close the viewer
and close the thumbnail pane to begin the whole rigmarole once more for
the next image. Mumble, chunter, grumble......

There does not seem to be an easy way to revert to the previous version of
WLM

Am I being ultra-dense, or is there an alternative?

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:34:42 -0500, "Bill & Ange"
wrote:

The only alternative is to go through another browser like Firefox.

The real only alternative is to use a proper binary newsreader. Agent
for light use and text groups, something like Newsbin or Newsleecher
for proper binary downloading.

Hi Indrek,
Was this a recent update?
I'm using WLM and not seeing (literally) what you're describing.
I've been using it for a couple years, no changes yet.
Have you posted the question at the MS newsgroup for WLM?
Take care,
Bill Wolcott

"Indrek Aaviso" wrote in message
...
I have used Windows Live Mail for a while and it handled binary newsgroups
reasonably well. i.e. click on a message and the message and any contained
picture would pop up.

Now the geniuses at Microsoft have come up with an "improved" version of
WLM. This requires me to double click on a message to bring up a thumbnail
image and I then have to double click on the thumbnail to bring up Windows
Photo Viewer so that I can actually see the image properly. After that,
unless I want myriad sessions of WPV running, I have to close the viewer
and close the thumbnail pane to begin the whole rigmarole once more for
the next image. Mumble, chunter, grumble......

There does not seem to be an easy way to revert to the previous version of
WLM

Am I being ultra-dense, or is there an alternative?

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

On 30/11/2010 10:51 AM, none@given wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:34:42 -0500, "Bill&
wrote:

The only alternative is to go through another browser like Firefox.

The real only alternative is to use a proper binary newsreader. Agent
for light use and text groups, something like Newsbin or Newsleecher
for proper binary downloading.

(I know I'm going to regret this, even before saying it....) How do you
define "proper"?

"Trajan" wrote in message
news

The problem surfaced a couple of weeks ago.

My WLM is Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922)., but I can't remember exactly
when the update occurred.

There has been no response to my query about this on the Microsoft WLM
newsgroup, though I did read a lot of negative comments about the new
version. It appears that there is a way to revert to the older 2009 version
which I will attempt tomorrow. Stay tuned for the next exciting installment
of this ongoing saga. ;-)

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

Hi Indrek,
Was this a recent update?
I'm using WLM and not seeing (literally) what you're describing.
I've been using it for a couple years, no changes yet.
Have you posted the question at the MS newsgroup for WLM?
Take care,
Bill Wolcott

"Indrek Aaviso" wrote in message
...
I have used Windows Live Mail for a while and it handled binary newsgroups
reasonably well. i.e. click on a message and the message and any contained
picture would pop up.

Now the geniuses at Microsoft have come up with an "improved" version of
WLM. This requires me to double click on a message to bring up a thumbnail
image and I then have to double click on the thumbnail to bring up Windows
Photo Viewer so that I can actually see the image properly. After that,
unless I want myriad sessions of WPV running, I have to close the viewer
and close the thumbnail pane to begin the whole rigmarole once more for
the next image. Mumble, chunter, grumble......

There does not seem to be an easy way to revert to the previous version of
WLM

Am I being ultra-dense, or is there an alternative?

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

Gotcha Indrek, thx. I'll have to keep my eye's peeled for that update and
avoid it.
I've got Version 2009.
Bill Wolcott

"Indrek Aaviso" wrote in message
...
"Trajan" wrote in message
news

The problem surfaced a couple of weeks ago.

My WLM is Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922)., but I can't remember
exactly when the update occurred.

There has been no response to my query about this on the Microsoft WLM
newsgroup, though I did read a lot of negative comments about the new
version. It appears that there is a way to revert to the older 2009
version which I will attempt tomorrow. Stay tuned for the next exciting
installment of this ongoing saga. ;-)

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

Hi Indrek,
Was this a recent update?
I'm using WLM and not seeing (literally) what you're describing.
I've been using it for a couple years, no changes yet.
Have you posted the question at the MS newsgroup for WLM?
Take care,
Bill Wolcott

"Indrek Aaviso" wrote in message
...
I have used Windows Live Mail for a while and it handled binary
newsgroups reasonably well. i.e. click on a message and the message and
any contained picture would pop up.

Now the geniuses at Microsoft have come up with an "improved" version of
WLM. This requires me to double click on a message to bring up a
thumbnail image and I then have to double click on the thumbnail to bring
up Windows Photo Viewer so that I can actually see the image properly.
After that, unless I want myriad sessions of WPV running, I have to close
the viewer and close the thumbnail pane to begin the whole rigmarole
once more for the next image. Mumble, chunter, grumble......

There does not seem to be an easy way to revert to the previous version
of WLM

Am I being ultra-dense, or is there an alternative?

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto

Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

"Alan Erskine" wrote in message
ond.com...
The real only alternative is to use a proper binary newsreader.

(I know I'm going to regret this, even before saying it....) How do you
define "proper"?


That's a tricky question to answer until you have experienced a 'proper' or
'dedicated' newsreader. But Outlook Express and Win Live only have partial
support for newsreading so the word 'proper' is appropriate here. A
newsreader should assemble multi posts for you, it should allow multiple
pictures to be saved to your chosen folder and it should allow multiple pics
to be selected from a folder and posted easily. Now I require yEnc
encoding/decoding too so OE is often unsuitable but a dedicated newsreader
handles all this and more.

This was posted using OE6 which is great for text messages and OK for the
odd picture download but if you want to download a series it's a real pain.
I use Xnews, its free and does the job but there are plenty of free
newsreaders out there. Do try one you'll be glad you took the time to learn
how to use it.

"RustY ©" wrote in
:

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That's a tricky question to answer until you have experienced a
'proper' or 'dedicated' newsreader. But Outlook Express and Win Live
only have partial support for newsreading so the word 'proper' is
appropriate here. A newsreader should assemble multi posts for you,
it should allow multiple pictures to be saved to your chosen folder
and it should allow multiple pics to be selected from a folder and
posted easily. Now I require yEnc encoding/decoding too so OE is often
unsuitable but a dedicated newsreader handles all this and more.

This was posted using OE6 which is great for text messages and OK for
the odd picture download but if you want to download a series it's a
real pain.

I use Xnews,

its free and does the job but there are plenty
of free newsreaders out there. Do try one you'll be glad you took the
time to learn how to use it.





Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!! Been using it *without complaint* for about 20 years!

How many other programs are useful beyond 3-5 years?