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Old November 27th 05, 02:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Should those mistakes happen at an airport with an operating control
tower, the tower controller would catch the error and "nudge the
airplane back where it belongs".


Only if he can see the airplane. That's frequently not possible in
reduced visibility situations, such as those that would necessitate an
ILS approach in the first place.


Is the control tower at your field 800'AGL?
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Old November 27th 05, 02:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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1) Self-Serve fuel. Many airports have it. They even take credit
cards.


Yes, but most airports do not have self-serve fuel. At most airports
with fuel service the fuel vendor is a person.


At most of these airports, the fuel vendor person arrives before the Tower
opens, specifically to service the planes that will be taking off first.
It's pretty much the sensible thing to do. If they show up at the same time
that the tower opens, they won't be able to get the planes ready until
later.
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Old November 27th 05, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Is the control tower at your field 800'AGL?


Nope.


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Old November 27th 05, 02:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Judah" wrote in message
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At most of these airports, the fuel vendor person arrives before the Tower
opens, specifically to service the planes that will be taking off first.
It's pretty much the sensible thing to do. If they show up at the same
time
that the tower opens, they won't be able to get the planes ready until
later.


How many of those airports park the aircraft to be fueled within the ILS
critical areas?


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Old November 27th 05, 03:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

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I can fly all day in 800/2 in my Champ.
All I need is 1 sm and clear of clouds.
At 70 mph, it takes a while to get anywhere.


Perhaps all night, but probably not all day. The operating hours of
part-time towers tend to be the daytime hours, so the hours that you can fly
with only one mile visibility while remaining clear of clouds tend to be
just the nighttime hours. Your Champ' will be limited to operating in an
airport traffic pattern within 1/2 mile of the runway, assuming it has the
required lighting.


For CB/CC/CDAS, yes.
Some CDAS will give you a Special if you ask for it.
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Old November 27th 05, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"john smith" wrote in message
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For CB/CC/CDAS, yes.


No, for Class G airspace.



Some CDAS will give you a Special if you ask for it.


Class D airspace when the tower is closed? Special VFR is available only in
a surface area, but SVFR also requires separation from IFR aircraft.


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Old November 27th 05, 01:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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At most of these airports, the fuel vendor person arrives before the
Tower opens, specifically to service the planes that will be taking
off first. It's pretty much the sensible thing to do. If they show up
at the same time
that the tower opens, they won't be able to get the planes ready
until later.


How many of those airports park the aircraft to be fueled within the
ILS critical areas?


The OP did not suggest that planes parked in the ILS Critical areas.

Here's the original quote:
People may be taxiing around the airport with no intention of taking off,
for example, to fuel up, to do maintanance, or to more the aircraft.


Come on now, Steven. Either I'm getting better at this, or you're pulling a
me.
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Old December 1st 05, 02:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Jose" wrote in message
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the weather is below 800/2, in which case only IFR departures
will be of concern


People may be taxiing around the airport with no intention of taking
off, for example, to fuel up, to do maintanance, or to more the aircraft.

I suppose such an aircraft could call departure first, to ensure that
such operation will not interfere with anybody on approach.

Jose


I still would like someone to explain how this does not reinforce the
original poster's question.. Suppose someone just needs to taxi around near
the approach end of the rwy. they can, yes? nobody to stop them?

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