First Aircraft to 'use' TFR

"Jeremy Thomson" wrote
I put the 'use' in quotes becuase I believe TFR modes on radars have
been around since the 50's.


Vulcan bomber. TFR worked just fine.

I put the 'use' in quotes becuase I believe TFR modes on radars have
been around since the 50's.

Is there an activity more addicted to acronyms than flying?

To me, TFR means Temporary Flight Restriction, as when Bush II visits
Bush I at Kennebunkport and shuts down Cub operations within 30 miles.

(Incidentally, I got permission to enter the Class D airspace that
envelopes my home, so I could tour the area and show off my flying
skills to an adoring family. ATC kept asking me things like: "Are you
to the north?" "I just crossed Adams Point 2 miles west." "Is that you
circling?" At this point it dawned on me that ATC was looking at his
radar and simply couldn't see the Cub because it has no transponder
and no aluminum except for the cowling.)


all the best -- Dan Ford (email: info AT danford.net)

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Cub Driver wrote in message ...

I put the 'use' in quotes becuase I believe TFR modes on radars have
been around since the 50's.

Is there an activity more addicted to acronyms than flying?

Computing. Oh yes.

AI
ASCII
GB
KB
MB
PCMCIA
ISA
PCI
AGP
EISA
RAM
ROM
CPU
MHz
GHz
SDR
DDR
IDE
ATAPI
SCSI
SATA
DOS
CD
CDR
CDRW
DVD
DVDR
DVDRW
....
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The list is seemingly endless. I could go on with the acronyms...

Cheers
Graeme

"S. Sampson" wrote in message
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Vulcan bomber. TFR worked just fine.


Wasn't TFR a post-production modification to the Vulcan?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"S. Sampson" wrote in message
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Vulcan bomber. TFR worked just fine.


Wasn't TFR a post-production modification to the Vulcan?

Didn't A6-A have TFR? Or am I thinking radar altimeter...?

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"Bill Silvey" wrote...

Didn't A6-A have TFR? Or am I thinking radar altimeter...?

The A-6 had TFR, but it wasn't connected to the autopilot. Terrain Following
flight was done manually, with reference to the TFR display.

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
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"Bill Silvey" wrote...

Didn't A6-A have TFR? Or am I thinking radar altimeter...?

The A-6 had TFR, but it wasn't connected to the autopilot. Terrain
Following flight was done manually, with reference to the TFR display.

"You so much as hiccup at that altitude and you're dead." Grafton resisted
telling Parker he wasn't given to hiccups when flying over North Vietnam.



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In article , Bill Silvey
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"You so much as hiccup at that altitude and you're dead." Grafton resisted
telling Parker he wasn't given to hiccups when flying over North Vietnam.

Bit like Guy Gibson V.C. discussing flying 60ft over water at night in
WWII "You only need to hiccup at that height and you'd be in the drink".

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"S. Sampson" wrote in message
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Vulcan bomber. TFR worked just fine.


Wasn't TFR a post-production modification to the Vulcan?

Yes, it was originally intended for high altitude bombing. Amazing how the
aircraft was so versatile.

The Raven

"The Raven" wrote in message ...
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"S. Sampson" wrote in message
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Vulcan bomber. TFR worked just fine.


Wasn't TFR a post-production modification to the Vulcan?

Yes, it was originally intended for high altitude bombing. Amazing how the
aircraft was so versatile.

The Raven


The modification was introduced in 1966 to all the RAFs bombers;
however, the previously cancelled TSR-2 would have had a highly
advanced Ferranti TFR. One aircraft prototype minus the TFR performed
low level terrain following at 250' at Mach .9 shadowed by a
Lightning. Since 1962 RAF bomber pilots were being trained to fly low
and fast at between 300-500 ft. The TSR-2 with the Ferranti TFR would
have been a fantastic low level penetrator as its TFR was designed to
allow the pilots to hug the earth at over Mach 1.

Rob

Rob

Rob