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Old December 28th 05, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Recently I saw a special on The History Channel called "Dogfights". It
mentioned a book by Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse titled "No Guts, No Glory".
I have not been able to find this book for sale anywhere. Does anyone know
where I may find a copy of this book?

Thanks in advance.




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Old December 28th 05, 01:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article , Nobody wrote:
Recently I saw a special on The History Channel called "Dogfights". It
mentioned a book by Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse titled "No Guts, No Glory".
I have not been able to find this book for sale anywhere. Does anyone know
where I may find a copy of this book?


It was originally a 30 page manual written in 1955 for U.S. Air Force
fighter pilots regarding tactical maneuvers, and was classified at the
time. They were USAF issued to pilots as recently as 1973, that I am
aware of.

However, I think I once heard somewhere that another of his books,
'Check Six' includes a reprint of the 30 page 'No Guts, No Glory' manual
at the end?

'Check Six' is unclassified and available for purchase.

Amazon sells it through other booksellers for as little as one cent for
the paperback edition of 'Check Six'.

Someone in rec.aviation.military would probably know for sure if 'Check
Six' does indeed have a reprint of 'No Guts, No Glory' in it.

-Dan
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Old December 28th 05, 01:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Recently I saw a special on The History Channel called "Dogfights". It
mentioned a book by Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse titled "No Guts, No
Glory".
I have not been able to find this book for sale anywhere. Does anyone
know
where I may find a copy of this book?

Thanks in advance.


Boots wrote NGNG on 8 1/2 x 11 typewriter paper while he was an 86 driver in
Korea. I have an early copy of this work. Its not a book, but rather a short
course in basic ACM and tactics for the 86 against the Mig 15 written on the
base ops typewriter.
The piece is very short. My copy is 41 pages counting illustrations.
I'd be surprised if you could find the piece in book form, but nothing's
impossible.
Boots was living in Florida last I heard; Melborne if I remember right. It
was some time ago.
Perhaps a call to information there will uncover something concrete you can
pursue.
Dudley Henriques


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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:42:00 -0600, "Nobody"
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It
mentioned a book by Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse titled "No Guts, No Glory".


More information about the publication is available he
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0316...tX6Hnj1qI%253D

"In the March 1955 issue of the Fighter Weapons Newsletter, Major
Frederick "Boots" Blesse, a double ace from the Korean War,
published an article about fighter techniques used in Korea titled
"No Guts, No Glory." The newsletter was the official publication
of the Fighter Weapons School at Nellis and usually contained no
articles of consequence ..."
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:42:00 -0600, "Nobody"
wrote:

:Recently I saw a special on The History Channel called "Dogfights". It
:mentioned a book by Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse titled "No Guts, No Glory".
:I have not been able to find this book for sale anywhere. Does anyone know
:where I may find a copy of this book?
:
:Thanks in advance.

Here's a PDF copy

http://www.simhq.com/_air/PDF/NGNG.pdf


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Old December 28th 05, 12:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Perfect. That's exactly what I wanted. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

-Richard M.


"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:42:00 -0600, "Nobody"
wrote:

:Recently I saw a special on The History Channel called "Dogfights". It
:mentioned a book by Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse titled "No Guts, No

Glory".
:I have not been able to find this book for sale anywhere. Does anyone

know
:where I may find a copy of this book?
:
:Thanks in advance.

Here's a PDF copy

http://www.simhq.com/_air/PDF/NGNG.pdf




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Old December 28th 05, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 06:23:07 -0600, "Nobody"
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:Perfect. That's exactly what I wanted. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
:
:-Richard M.

As long as we're linking to obscure monographs on aerial combat -

http://12.1.239.226/isysnative/SDpcS...lder%205-1.TIF

http://12.1.239.226/isysnative/SDpcS...lder%205-2.TIF

For some reason in this computer the mult-page TIF starts my copy of
quicktime, and then I'm only able to open the first page. But it's
supposed to be Boyd's "Aerial Attack Study."

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Old December 28th 05, 05:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:18:43 -0800, Richard Riley
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As long as we're linking to obscure monographs on aerial combat -

http://12.1.239.226/isysnative/SDpcS...lder%205-1.TIF

http://12.1.239.226/isysnative/SDpcS...lder%205-2.TIF

For some reason in this computer the mult-page TIF starts my copy of
quicktime, and then I'm only able to open the first page.


It opens Windows Picture and Fax Viewer on my WinXP system. Perhaps
you might consider changing the TIF file association from the Tools
pulldown menu at the top of any folder: Tools/Folder Options/File
Types.

But it's supposed to be Boyd's "Aerial Attack Study."


The documents returned from each link are identical, the first 79
pages of 147 total. Perhaps contacting the webmaster of the Aviadores
Virtuales Asociados site with a request to correct the error, and
provide the last 68 pages may be productive:
http://www.aviadoresvirtuales.org/contacta.php
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Old December 28th 05, 10:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dan Foster wrote:

However, I think I once heard somewhere that another of his books,
'Check Six' includes a reprint of the 30 page 'No Guts, No Glory' manual
at the end?


Must be a different book. I just dug out my copy of Check Six and
got no joy :-(

Since you mentioned it, though, I highly recommend Check Six. It's a
great read and much more entertaining than the ACM manual.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Old December 29th 05, 04:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Richard Riley wrote:

As long as we're linking to obscure monographs on aerial combat....


The links may be hard to find, but there is nothing obscure about the
contributions of Blesse, nor of Boyd. Boyd in particular improved our
understanding of modern air fighting.

Also read, "Full Circle: The Tactics Of Air Fighting, 1914-1964" for an
over-view of the earlier history of air combat.


Jack
 




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