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Just for that, I'm not sending either of you a copy of the full paper. ;) Peter |
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In article , Errol
Cavit wrote: snippaggio Mark Burton, Minister of Defence and Major General Martyn Dunne, Commander Joint Forces New Zealand will farewell the deploying personnel at Ohakea. Is this "farewell" verb some new antipodean wickedness? We need to know, Errol. "We sure farewelled them Hussein sons of bitches..." It must be headed off at the pass. -- "The past resembles the future as water resembles water" Ibn Khaldun My .mac.com address is a spam sink. If you wish to email me, try alan dot lothian at blueyonder dot co dot uk |
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"Alan Lothian" wrote in message ... In article , Errol Cavit wrote: snippaggio Mark Burton, Minister of Defence and Major General Martyn Dunne, Commander Joint Forces New Zealand will farewell the deploying personnel at Ohakea. Is this "farewell" verb some new antipodean wickedness? We need to know, Errol. "We sure farewelled them Hussein sons of bitches..." http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary Main Entry: 3fare·well Function: transitive verb Date: 1580 chiefly Australian & New Zealand : to bid farewell to |
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First on the ground was C Company, 2RAR. Anybody know how many Hercs are
involved in the airlift? I did notice that a chartered Qantas 767 (VH-OGO) took most of the police and other civilians. Photos of the landing on Red Beach: http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/2...853177265.html Patrol boat HMAS Whyalla and landing craft HMAS Wewak and HMAS Labuan are leaving Cairns for the SOlomons some time today. Cheers David |
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Eric J. Whitney wrote in message ... Coop wrote: RT wrote: Eric J. Whitney wrote in message ... David Bromage wrote: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 97/2003 UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLES DEPLOYING TO SOLOMONS The Australian Defence Force will deploy for the first time on operations four Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) as part of the regional assistance mission to the Solomon Islands, Defence Minister Robert Hill announced today. "This is the first deployment of an unmanned aerial vehicle on operations by the Australian Defence Force," Senator Hill said. "It represents a significant advance in the development of our network centric warfare capabilities." Senator Hill said the Australian designed and built Aerosonde aircraft, operated by SAAB Australia, would be equipped with day and night sensors and communications equipment. [... snip ...] Yes, I saw the presentation given by Aerosonde at the conference just completed here ( www.aeromech.usyd.edu.au/UAV-MMNT3 ). It looks like a very capable and practical package. I wish them well. I loved this bit: "In addition, although efficient forms are found during the flaps- down case, it is shown how an occasional modeling limitation of the solver can precipitate spurious results." Chortle - that last phrase is priceless :-) :-) Don't worry mate - you can always sell it as a random number generator :-) In short, it crashed....? Coop Hardy har har. The comedy level around here is priceless. No, it didn't crash and no, I'm not going to sell it as a random number generator. Just for that, I'm not sending either of you a copy of the full paper. Hmph. Now, now, now - no need to spit le dummy (s******...... :-) |
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The Raven wrote in message ... My only concern is that the Aerosonde UAVs will be over hyped to the point people will get the wrong impression of what they are and what they are capable of. Yair. Well. Not helped by the hype on the Aerosonde web site rabbiting on about its radar disruptive capabilities - shortly after saying the total power available is 30 watts or similar. It's not my field but I have a severe problem believing 30 W in a UAV will disable your average anti-aircraft/G-A missile radar...... In fact the Aerosonde site in general would do credit to your average snake-oil salesman - heavy on the hype and VERY light on on the numbers. |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:44:02 +1000, "RT" wrote:
The Raven wrote in message ... My only concern is that the Aerosonde UAVs will be over hyped to the point people will get the wrong impression of what they are and what they are capable of. Yair. Well. Not helped by the hype on the Aerosonde web site rabbiting on about its radar disruptive capabilities - shortly after saying the total power available is 30 watts or similar. It's not my field but I have a severe problem believing 30 W in a UAV will disable your average anti-aircraft/G-A missile radar...... 30 watts RMS is more than enought to disrupt most airborne radars. remember the radar duty cycles are very very short, typically less then .1%, so the ERP from 30 watts rms could easily be in the tens of kilowatts. Ground based fire control radars are another story. Those things often have ERP's of several hundred megawatts. They are designed to burn through almost any kind of intereference. |
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matt weber wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:44:02 +1000, "RT" wrote: The Raven wrote in message ... My only concern is that the Aerosonde UAVs will be over hyped to the point people will get the wrong impression of what they are and what they are capable of. Yair. Well. Not helped by the hype on the Aerosonde web site rabbiting on about its radar disruptive capabilities - shortly after saying the total power available is 30 watts or similar. It's not my field but I have a severe problem believing 30 W in a UAV will disable your average anti-aircraft/G-A missile radar...... 30 watts RMS is more than enought to disrupt most airborne radars. remember the radar duty cycles are very very short, typically less then .1%, so the ERP from 30 watts rms could easily be in the tens of kilowatts. Ground based fire control radars are another story. Those things often have ERP's of several hundred megawatts. They are designed to burn through almost any kind of intereference. Erm... I DID say..:- "I have a severe problem believing 30 W in a UAV will disable your average anti-aircraft/G-A missile radar......" Are you suggesting anti-aircraft/G-A missile radars are airborne? Or do you think they might be "Ground based fire control radars" which "are another story"? |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:37:19 +1000, "RT" wrote:
matt weber wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:44:02 +1000, "RT" wrote: The Raven wrote in message ... My only concern is that the Aerosonde UAVs will be over hyped to the point people will get the wrong impression of what they are and what they are capable of. Yair. Well. Not helped by the hype on the Aerosonde web site rabbiting on about its radar disruptive capabilities - shortly after saying the total power available is 30 watts or similar. It's not my field but I have a severe problem believing 30 W in a UAV will disable your average anti-aircraft/G-A missile radar...... 30 watts RMS is more than enought to disrupt most airborne radars. remember the radar duty cycles are very very short, typically less then .1%, so the ERP from 30 watts rms could easily be in the tens of kilowatts. Ground based fire control radars are another story. Those things often have ERP's of several hundred megawatts. They are designed to burn through almost any kind of intereference. Erm... I DID say..:- "I have a severe problem believing 30 W in a UAV will disable your average anti-aircraft/G-A missile radar......" Are you suggesting anti-aircraft/G-A missile radars are airborne? Or do you think they might be "Ground based fire control radars" which "are another story"? Depends whose it is. The Russian and American Fire Control radars are awesome beasts, however as you move to more locally manufactured product, they start to look more and more like the capabilities of airborne radars. |
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Minehunter HMAS Hawkesbury is leaving Sydney for the Solomons tomorrow
morning. Cheers David |
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