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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote in : Cool. Not a lot you can do when you leave a wreck somewhere anyway but own up. Wonder what he'd make of his countrymen's craze for burying vintage aircraft. Bertie It's been a mess over there for sure. That last Hurricane was a real shame. I lost three friends in the UK in unrelated accidents in the last several years. Ted Girdler (ex- Red Arrow 1972 was killed several years ago doing a show, and Ormond Hayden-Bailee was killed several years ago. Both were in the old IFPF as charter members. Hoof Proudfoot dug a hole at Duxford with a P38 doing a double roll. Another first rate display pilot gone. The list gets larger every year it seems. eah, I saw Proubfoot display that -38 and I have to say I was less than impressed. Loops were done with precious little room and he was doing fairly low rolls pointed right at the crowd. This was at the 50th anniv of D-day so was June 1994, about a year before he crashed it. I also recently saw that RN guy who keeps crashing airplanes display a Skyraider. To be fair he didn;t get as low as I've seen him do in the past, but still, it all just didn;t look right and I thought it was all kind of pointless, especailly since the airplane was fairly ugly anyway! Bertie First lesson 101 for display flying; The crowd is split between those who don't appreciate the difference between 500 feet and 50 feet, and those who do appreciate the difference are the ones you don't need to please. -- Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote in : Cool. Not a lot you can do when you leave a wreck somewhere anyway but own up. Wonder what he'd make of his countrymen's craze for burying vintage aircraft. Bertie It's been a mess over there for sure. That last Hurricane was a real shame. I lost three friends in the UK in unrelated accidents in the last several years. Ted Girdler (ex- Red Arrow 1972 was killed several years ago doing a show, and Ormond Hayden-Bailee was killed several years ago. Both were in the old IFPF as charter members. Hoof Proudfoot dug a hole at Duxford with a P38 doing a double roll. Another first rate display pilot gone. The list gets larger every year it seems. eah, I saw Proubfoot display that -38 and I have to say I was less than impressed. Loops were done with precious little room and he was doing fairly low rolls pointed right at the crowd. This was at the 50th anniv of D-day so was June 1994, about a year before he crashed it. I also recently saw that RN guy who keeps crashing airplanes display a Skyraider. To be fair he didn;t get as low as I've seen him do in the past, but still, it all just didn;t look right and I thought it was all kind of pointless, especailly since the airplane was fairly ugly anyway! Bertie First lesson 101 for display flying; The crowd is split between those who don't appreciate the difference between 500 feet and 50 feet, and those who do appreciate the difference are the ones you don't need to please. Well, looks like he might have finally learned that, or the CAA finally put the skids on him. I mentioned my friend that's displaying there now. He was telling me about His certification. He's very disciplined and prepares extremely well for his shows. He was telling me that the examiner or whatever he'd be called there commented that his is the direction they would like to go, so obviously they've also realised things have to change. Mind you, this was before the Hurricane accident so maybe not. I think the problem there is that people are easily bullied by the likes of Beattie, the CAA included. I knew an RAF pilot, for instance. The man shouldn't have been let anywhere near any kind of airplane. Even a chuck glider was well beyond this guy, but he spoke proper and managed to pile up bull**** and so rose to a very high position in the RAF. After he left he became a management pilot at a big UK airline. Well, for a while. After a series of incidents someone eventually figured out that he was useless and he was eventaully hounded out of the place, but in the meantime , whew! Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote in : Cool. Not a lot you can do when you leave a wreck somewhere anyway but own up. Wonder what he'd make of his countrymen's craze for burying vintage aircraft. Bertie It's been a mess over there for sure. That last Hurricane was a real shame. I lost three friends in the UK in unrelated accidents in the last several years. Ted Girdler (ex- Red Arrow 1972 was killed several years ago doing a show, and Ormond Hayden-Bailee was killed several years ago. Both were in the old IFPF as charter members. Hoof Proudfoot dug a hole at Duxford with a P38 doing a double roll. Another first rate display pilot gone. The list gets larger every year it seems. eah, I saw Proubfoot display that -38 and I have to say I was less than impressed. Loops were done with precious little room and he was doing fairly low rolls pointed right at the crowd. This was at the 50th anniv of D-day so was June 1994, about a year before he crashed it. I also recently saw that RN guy who keeps crashing airplanes display a Skyraider. To be fair he didn;t get as low as I've seen him do in the past, but still, it all just didn;t look right and I thought it was all kind of pointless, especailly since the airplane was fairly ugly anyway! Bertie First lesson 101 for display flying; The crowd is split between those who don't appreciate the difference between 500 feet and 50 feet, and those who do appreciate the difference are the ones you don't need to please. Well, looks like he might have finally learned that, or the CAA finally put the skids on him. I mentioned my friend that's displaying there now. He was telling me about His certification. He's very disciplined and prepares extremely well for his shows. He was telling me that the examiner or whatever he'd be called there commented that his is the direction they would like to go, so obviously they've also realised things have to change. Mind you, this was before the Hurricane accident so maybe not. I think the problem there is that people are easily bullied by the likes of Beattie, the CAA included. I knew an RAF pilot, for instance. The man shouldn't have been let anywhere near any kind of airplane. Even a chuck glider was well beyond this guy, but he spoke proper and managed to pile up bull**** and so rose to a very high position in the RAF. After he left he became a management pilot at a big UK airline. Well, for a while. After a series of incidents someone eventually figured out that he was useless and he was eventaully hounded out of the place, but in the meantime , whew! Bertie This kind of thing happens. There are a lot of us out here who are and were connected with display flying who "talk" to each other via email all the time. Many of us in this loop are still active. Some are air show people; some are military; some are race pilots some are Red Bull pilots. We're in no way "official", but we communicate all the time. Official or not, we have a deep reach into official channels in several countries and much of what we discuss safety wise ends up implemented in some way into the way things are done. My own personal feelings about air show safety have evolved somewhat from my active days as a pilot. The safety issues are very real and are deserving of constant attention by the display community. I for one don't have all the answers. I keep active and at least have a small voice in the matter. Anyway, it keeps me hopping sometimes :-)) -- Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
: This kind of thing happens. There are a lot of us out here who are and were connected with display flying who "talk" to each other via email all the time. Many of us in this loop are still active. Some are air show people; some are military; some are race pilots some are Red Bull pilots. We're in no way "official", but we communicate all the time. Official or not, we have a deep reach into official channels in several countries and much of what we discuss safety wise ends up implemented in some way into the way things are done. My own personal feelings about air show safety have evolved somewhat from my active days as a pilot. The safety issues are very real and are deserving of constant attention by the display community. I for one don't have all the answers. I keep active and at least have a small voice in the matter. Anyway, it keeps me hopping sometimes :-)) Well, the hopping bit is good anyway! Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Also, I drink Jameson. In moderation most of the time... |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
His example... "********ed it up", you already know. but he could have also said " I made a ******** of it" and it's likely he exclaimed "********" as his wing touched the runway. Pretty much just **** or **** in US english. If someone were to tell you something of which you doubt the veracity you might say to him "that's ********" in fact it's pretty much a direct substitute for bull**** or horse ****. Yet another use is "He's a ********" which is pretty much a straight swap (or swop of one prefers) for ******* or similar. You can also give or recieve a bollocking. This roughly translates into getting a new one torn. Past tense, bollocked. You can also be ********ed, which means you are very tired. This is not so common as it more common to say "I'm knackered" which means wrecked, but ********ed can also be used in more extreme cases of knackeredness. Can also mean getting drunk in some circles, though that's usually getting ****ed as I'm sure you know. And last but not least when some ******** makes a ******** of something the best think to do is to kick him square in the ********. Also spelled Bollox and Bollix. If there;s a difference between the three I'm not aware of it. I think that's fairly accurate, though it's more than likely some ******** will come along and correct me. Never mind the ********, here's the bunyip! |
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Rich Ahrens wrote in news:4744bfdc$0$27496$804603d3
@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Also, I drink Jameson. In moderation most of the time... Most of the time.. I'll drink anything in a pinch, though. Had som Sliebowitz (sp?) there a few weeks ago. Like lighter fluid, but makes you nice and warm inside, alright. Bertie |
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Rich Ahrens wrote in
ouse.com: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: His example... "********ed it up", you already know. but he could have also said " I made a ******** of it" and it's likely he exclaimed "********" as his wing touched the runway. Pretty much just **** or **** in US english. If someone were to tell you something of which you doubt the veracity you might say to him "that's ********" in fact it's pretty much a direct substitute for bull**** or horse ****. Yet another use is "He's a ********" which is pretty much a straight swap (or swop of one prefers) for ******* or similar. You can also give or recieve a bollocking. This roughly translates into getting a new one torn. Past tense, bollocked. You can also be ********ed, which means you are very tired. This is not so common as it more common to say "I'm knackered" which means wrecked, but ********ed can also be used in more extreme cases of knackeredness. Can also mean getting drunk in some circles, though that's usually getting ****ed as I'm sure you know. And last but not least when some ******** makes a ******** of something the best think to do is to kick him square in the ********. Also spelled Bollox and Bollix. If there;s a difference between the three I'm not aware of it. I think that's fairly accurate, though it's more than likely some ******** will come along and correct me. Never mind the ********, here's the bunyip! Xachery! And one more, "He thinks he's the ********" Which is the commonly shortened version of "thinks he's the dog's bolocks" , the dog's ******** being a superlative. A good car can be the dog's ********, for instance. Such a subtle and wonderful culture. Bertie |
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"Viperdoc" wrote in
: Ever drink grappa? I've tried a couple of different brands, and they all tasted like essence of used sweat socks. Yeah, I'm not gone on the stuff, that's for sure! On the other hand, I got a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue as a present- the stuff was unbelievable! Niiice. Bertie |
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