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Old February 25th 04, 02:41 PM
David R.
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Default #5 cylinder not firing

We have a 1979 Cessna 182RG with 1350 hours since overhaul. 6 weeks ago,
we began to notice the engine to be rough on the right magneto during
run-up. Over two weeks, it became increasingly difficult to burn it off by
leaning during the run-up, until one day when it became impossible. We
noticed on the engine monitor that the #5 cylinder head temp was cold during
the run-up. Our mechanic looked at it, and yep, it was a fouled spark plug
which was replaced. Now, about 15 hours later (and an annual), we have the
same problem with the #5 cylinder. It's going back to the shop today. Any
ideas? Why the same cylinder? What should we be looking for?


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Old February 25th 04, 03:06 PM
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David R. wrote:

We have a 1979 Cessna 182RG with 1350 hours since overhaul. 6 weeks ago,
we began to notice the engine to be rough on the right magneto during
run-up. Over two weeks, it became increasingly difficult to burn it off by
leaning during the run-up, until one day when it became impossible. We
noticed on the engine monitor that the #5 cylinder head temp was cold during
the run-up. Our mechanic looked at it, and yep, it was a fouled spark plug
which was replaced. Now, about 15 hours later (and an annual), we have the
same problem with the #5 cylinder. It's going back to the shop today. Any
ideas? Why the same cylinder? What should we be looking for?


Bad plug, bad mag or bad spark plug wire.

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Old February 25th 04, 03:07 PM
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What was fouling it? Oil? Carbon? Lead?

Lots of different answers depending on what the cause was.

Rich

David R. wrote:
We have a 1979 Cessna 182RG with 1350 hours since overhaul. 6 weeks ago,
we began to notice the engine to be rough on the right magneto during
run-up. Over two weeks, it became increasingly difficult to burn it off by
leaning during the run-up, until one day when it became impossible. We
noticed on the engine monitor that the #5 cylinder head temp was cold during
the run-up. Our mechanic looked at it, and yep, it was a fouled spark plug
which was replaced. Now, about 15 hours later (and an annual), we have the
same problem with the #5 cylinder. It's going back to the shop today. Any
ideas? Why the same cylinder? What should we be looking for?



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Old February 25th 04, 03:11 PM
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I'm not sure, but i think he said it was carbon.

"Rich" wrote in message
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What was fouling it? Oil? Carbon? Lead?

Lots of different answers depending on what the cause was.

Rich

David R. wrote:
We have a 1979 Cessna 182RG with 1350 hours since overhaul. 6 weeks

ago,
we began to notice the engine to be rough on the right magneto during
run-up. Over two weeks, it became increasingly difficult to burn it off

by
leaning during the run-up, until one day when it became impossible. We
noticed on the engine monitor that the #5 cylinder head temp was cold

during
the run-up. Our mechanic looked at it, and yep, it was a fouled spark

plug
which was replaced. Now, about 15 hours later (and an annual), we have

the
same problem with the #5 cylinder. It's going back to the shop today.

Any
ideas? Why the same cylinder? What should we be looking for?





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Old February 25th 04, 03:21 PM
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"David R." wrote in message
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We have a 1979 Cessna 182RG with 1350 hours since overhaul. 6 weeks ago,
we began to notice the engine to be rough on the right magneto during
run-up. Over two weeks, it became increasingly difficult to burn it off

by
leaning during the run-up, until one day when it became impossible. We
noticed on the engine monitor that the #5 cylinder head temp was cold

during
the run-up. Our mechanic looked at it, and yep, it was a fouled spark

plug
which was replaced. Now, about 15 hours later (and an annual), we have

the
same problem with the #5 cylinder. It's going back to the shop today.

Any
ideas? Why the same cylinder? What should we be looking for?


Bad cylinder, bad valve guides, bad plugs, bad wires -- all possibilities.


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Old February 25th 04, 07:09 PM
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We had a similar problem except the plug was getting fouled with oil. We
had a crack piston ring.


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Old February 25th 04, 07:27 PM
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"David R." wrote:

What should we be looking for?


Bad plug wire.

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Old February 26th 04, 01:09 AM
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"David" wrote
I'm not sure, but i think he said it was carbon.


You likely have a cylinder running too rich. First off, are you
leaning for taxi? You should be - and I mean leaning to the point
where you can't advance the throttle to runup power without killing
the engine.

Second - do you have a carbureted engine or an injected one? If
carbureted, not much you can do besides leaning, but if it's injected,
the injectors come in several sizes and you can go to a narrower bore
injector.

Of course it could be lots of other reasons as well. Bad plug, bad
contact in the mag, bad wire - but all those things cost money to fix.
Leaning costs nothing, so you should try that first.

Michael
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Old February 26th 04, 05:47 AM
David R.
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Yes, we are aggressively leaning before taxi.

Thanks for the info.

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"David" wrote
I'm not sure, but i think he said it was carbon.


You likely have a cylinder running too rich. First off, are you
leaning for taxi? You should be - and I mean leaning to the point
where you can't advance the throttle to runup power without killing
the engine.

Second - do you have a carbureted engine or an injected one? If
carbureted, not much you can do besides leaning, but if it's injected,
the injectors come in several sizes and you can go to a narrower bore
injector.

Of course it could be lots of other reasons as well. Bad plug, bad
contact in the mag, bad wire - but all those things cost money to fix.
Leaning costs nothing, so you should try that first.

Michael



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Old February 26th 04, 05:49 AM
David R.
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How do you diagnose a cracked piston ring? Scope? Compressions?


"Kevin Chandler" wrote in message
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We had a similar problem except the plug was getting fouled with oil. We
had a crack piston ring.




 




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