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"The Weiss Family" writes:
Downside - parts cost a fortune - try C$1600.00 for a mixture cable - ouch! My friend bought a non Beech cable instead (I believe it was actually a Cessna one) for less that C$100.00. Can you do that? If so, I'm definitely going to go that route! Get McFarlane's catalog, they have the best cables. I replaced the push-pull mixture in my Skylane with a vernier control. Very smooth action. As a bonus, that is one company that is really into keeping customers happy. -jav |
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On 11-Sep-2004, "The Weiss Family" wrote: I also negotiated that he annual the plane (it was due in Nov). Do I understand correctly that the seller is going to perform an annual as a condition of sale? Is he an A&P, or do you mean he is going to PAY for it? If the latter, who chose the shop? What incentive does he (the seller) have to do anything beyond the absolute minimum to get the annual signed off? In this airplane, the cost difference between a "barely legal" annual and a "responsible" one could be thousands of dollars, depending upon how diligently the plane has been maintained in the past. That said, for all I know everything is ship-shape with the plane and you will be very happy with it. Congratulations! -- -Elliott Drucker |
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Yes, you can get field approval for a standard cable from Aircraft Spruce.
Come join us at musketeermail http://groups.yahoo.com/group/musketeermail as well as the Beech Aero Club http://www.beechaeroclub.org Many congratulations on the plane! |
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Do I understand correctly that the seller is going to perform an annual as
a condition of sale? Is he an A&P, or do you mean he is going to PAY for it? He is going to pay for it. If the latter, who chose the shop? What incentive does he (the seller) have to do anything beyond the absolute minimum to get the annual signed off? In this airplane, the cost difference between a "barely legal" annual and a "responsible" one could be thousands of dollars, depending upon how diligently the plane has been maintained in the past. Judging by the current condition of the plane, I think it has been well maintained. Also, the owner doesn't expect any high-cost items in the annual (aside from fixing the small oil leak). We did agree that if something else comes up that costs more than $500, he may refuse to pay for it (basically I will have to, if I want to, or we can can the whole deal). My feeling is that he will probably fix it. Since he will either have to disclose any airworthiness issues to another potential buyer, and adjust his asking price, or he will have to fix it. My guess is that he will not want to find another buyer, and he'll just go ahead and fix it... That said, for all I know everything is ship-shape with the plane and you will be very happy with it. Congratulations! Thanks, and I'm hoping it all works out, too... Adam |
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In article ,
Javier Henderson wrote: I hereby wager $1.00 that the KX170's will outlast everything else in the airplane. ....because they will be sitting, yellow-tagged, on some tech's shelf after he replaces them with something else. ;-) -- Ben Jackson http://www.ben.com/ |
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Are you still planning on flying out for the air races next week?
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. Thanks, Adam. Yep, after at least 10 revisions in our arrangements, we're still planning on departing Wednesday for Reno. In the unlikely event that we actually make it all the way to Grass Valley in one day, we will be camping in Jim Weir and Gail Allinson's back yard on Wednesday night. Then it's off to the races for a few days (although I quite frankly have forgotten how we're getting to the race itself. Was that your car we're borrowing, or Jim's? :-), spending a couple of nights in a hotel (where the folks who were supposed to accompany us have made reservations. They have had to cancel their trip...), and then spending Sunday night back at Jim's again before departing for home on Monday morning. Whew! I'll bet everyone here a nickel that this trip doesn't go off as planned, for two simple reasons: 1) We're traveling across the continent VFR 2) We've just experienced 8 perfect, cloudless days in a row here in the Midwest. That can't continue, can it? We'll see! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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The Weiss Family wrote: I just closed the deal on my first airplane. Congrats! Sounds like you did very well. George Patterson If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people he gives it to. |
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The Weiss Family wrote: Judging by the current condition of the plane, I think it has been well maintained. That may be and hopefully it has been. However this guy is now your enemy, sort of. Also, the owner doesn't expect any high-cost items in the annual (aside from fixing the small oil leak). We did agree that if something else comes up that costs more than $500, he may refuse to pay for it (basically I will have to, if I want to, or we can can the whole deal). Wrong way to go about it. He should be responsible for any item affecting airworthiness, regardless of the cost. |
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There is one (actually two, mine's one of them) on Trade-A-Plane.
There is another A23 with a 200HP conversion on www.controller.com It actually looks like a sweet deal, but I needed the third row seat. Hi Adam I couldn't find the ones on Trade-A-Plane (I'm not a member - strange that non members can't search, being that their reason for existing is to sell planes) but I did look at the www.controller.com one and I am interested - I emailed it to some friends who own that model and I'll let you know if I pursue it. Thanks for the heads up Tony -- Tony Roberts PP-ASEL VFR OTT Night Cessna 172H C-GICE |
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Do I understand correctly that the seller is going to perform an annual as a
condition of sale? Is he an A&P, or do you mean he is going to PAY for it? If the latter, who chose the shop? What incentive does he (the seller) have to do anything beyond the absolute minimum to get the annual signed off? Yeah, I hope the written agreement is the airplane will be annualed *and* returned to service (two completely separate steps that can be performed by different people, the latter of which does not need to be an IA). A mere "annual inspection" is just that, an inspection and associated writeup of discrepanies. It has no other meaning. The cost difference between a "barely legal" annual and a "responsible" one could be thousands of dollars, depending upon how diligently the plane has been maintained in the past. Right, or again, that's the difference between an annual *inspection* (even a really good one), and subsequent return to service. The inspection part should be a fairly predictable fixed-cost deal, if I were the seller that's how I would interpret my end of the bargain (+ the $500 allowance mentioned). That said, for all I know everything is ship-shape with the plane and you will be very happy with it. Congratulations! Yes, seems like a good situation overall, I wouldn't be too worried. Sounds like you guys have the "surprise" scenario worked out in form of an escape clause of some sort. As someone else pointed out, not the best way to approach it (you really wanted to stipulate airworthiness, not completion of an inspection), but you'll be most likely OK. Good luck ! |
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