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Old September 13th 05, 02:19 PM
Jim Burns
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The MIL-L-6081 listed in the article is the old number for the current MIL
PRF 6081 Grade 1010 Jet engine oil, such as Mobil Avrex M Turbo 201/1010.
I'm wondering if they picked this oil specifically or if they just used
something that was handy.
Jim

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http://www-ext.tinker.af.mil/tild/to/0085a031.pdf

See page 37

cheers ... denny



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Old September 13th 05, 04:54 PM
Mike Rapoport
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Thanks Denny! This looks like the definative word on fuel cells.

Mike
MU-2


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http://www-ext.tinker.af.mil/tild/to/0085a031.pdf

See page 37

cheers ... denny



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Old September 16th 05, 04:22 AM
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:07:05 -0600, Newps wrote:

I had bladders on my 182 and now have them on my Bonanza. Obviously the
best is to leave them full. I never had full tanks unless I was going a
long way, just wasn't going to put up with the decrease in performance
lugging around all that weight. What really hurts the bladders is to be
left outside in the baking sun, second is the temp change associated
with being outside. If there is any condensation as night falls now you
have water on the top of the bladder. This doesn't help bladder life.
The next best thing to keeping them full is an insulated hangar so
there's no sun damage and the change in temp is slow. New bladders now
a days last about 30 years, not keeping them full using the above
methods will reduce that to 25, so go for it. I didn't coat the
bladders with anything.


At least one in the Deb is original from 59. One main was changed
when I hit the Deer and the impact split the tank. I don't remember
if the aux tanks have ever been changed. I think one has, but I'd
have to dig out the books.

So, I have one that's a tad over 47 years and no leaks.
Being paranoid about gas I almost always have the mains and auxes
full. OTOH that's only 70 gallons. I often fly in crappy weather and
would rather leave most anything behind except gas.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com



Mike Rapoport wrote:

I have a Helio Courier with four fuel cells holding 30 gallons each. My
typical flight uses ~35 gallons so I would like to leave the outer (aux)
tanks empty most of the time. I understand that leaving them empty will
reduce their life expectancy. How much should I expect the life expectancy
to be reduced? It there a proceedure to coat the inside of the bladders
with something that would preserve them? Thanks!

Mike
MU-2


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Old September 16th 05, 12:02 PM
Denny
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Fat Albert has the original cells still in service with the internal
markings from manufacturer in 1956 looking like new in yellow
stencil... Being hangared other then when on trips has been the major
factor in my estimation along with always being partially full....

denny

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Old September 17th 05, 08:30 AM
Roger
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On 16 Sep 2005 04:02:28 -0700, "Denny" wrote:

Fat Albert has the original cells still in service with the internal
markings from manufacturer in 1956 looking like new in yellow
stencil... Being hangared other then when on trips has been the major
factor in my estimation along with always being partially full....


Yup and the only time they are more than an inch or two down from the
top is only for a short time. The tanks are *almost always full when
it's in the hangar.

IRoger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

denny

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Old September 17th 05, 12:54 PM
Dan Luke
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"Roger" wrote:

Yup and the only time they are more than an inch or two down from the
top is only for a short time. The tanks are *almost always full when
it's in the hangar.


Kinda tough on the payload, isn't it?

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


 




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