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Fuel Prices For The July Pilgrimage
Montblack wrote:
("RST Engineering" wrote) My best estimate right now is that it will cost slightly north of 1 AMU to pump the 182 from GOO to OSH and back. GOO ...funny name. How about FOK? |
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Reason being, about two months from today a lot of us will be coming a long
distance to The Money Hole On Lake Winnebago. My best estimate right now is that it will cost slightly north of 1 AMU to pump the 182 from GOO to OSH and back. Well, although I can't officially sell mogas at the airport out of our Mighty Grape, I *can* be persuaded to sell it to friends. For those who are coming to the Pre-OSH Pool Party, let me know in advance, please, and I'll make sure we're topped off. Thus far I know Jim & Gail, and Darrel are in the mogas market. Anyone else? Jack, you got the mogas STC on your Arrow? Edwin, how 'bout for your Maule? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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In article . com,
Jim Burns wrote: 100LL.com has consistently beat Airnav.com on price accuracy and timely updates for all of the long cross country trips I've taken during the past 2 years. It's saved me more than $1000 over what Airnav found for lowest priced fuel near my destinations. Interesting. While Airnav is often incorrect (old data), 100ll.com is more often incorrect in my experience. Certainly, 100ll.com appears to be consistently less accurate just in my local/regional area. In any case, I've concluded that the best method is to find the airports with low price trends, and then call them to get an update on prices and availability. During the post-Katrina run-up, the cheaper fields quickly sold out and, because they didn't raise prices with the market, couldn't afford to refill the tanks until prices came back down again. It would be a shame to land somewhere with legal reserves, only to find out that their tanks are dry. JKG |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Reason being, about two months from today a lot of us will be coming a long distance to The Money Hole On Lake Winnebago. My best estimate right now is that it will cost slightly north of 1 AMU to pump the 182 from GOO to OSH and back. Well, although I can't officially sell mogas at the airport out of our Mighty Grape, I *can* be persuaded to sell it to friends. For those who are coming to the Pre-OSH Pool Party, let me know in advance, please, and I'll make sure we're topped off. Thus far I know Jim & Gail, and Darrel are in the mogas market. Anyone else? Jack, you got the mogas STC on your Arrow? Edwin, how 'bout for your Maule? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Jay, I don't believe you are selling anything. You are offering to fill up your friends and they are accepting your kind offer to keep their plugs clean, but they would never let you actually pay for their gas. :-) Margy |
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"RST Engineering" wrote:
I'd like a consensus opinion from the newsgroup denizens who use any of the popular "fuel pricing" websites as to the one that they find the most accurate. My personal favorite over the last few years has been Airnav, but I'm willing to be persuaded that there is better. Reason being, about two months from today a lot of us will be coming a long distance to The Money Hole On Lake Winnebago. My best estimate right now is that it will cost slightly north of 1 AMU to pump the 182 from GOO to OSH and back. There are a lot of people from both coasts who are going to spend at least a significant fraction of that and possibly more. Let's pick ONE site and keep it absolutely up to the minute current from our local area at least through the week of The Show. Jim I know, I know. "consensus opinion" goes in the same sentence as "herding cats". AOPA has fuel pricing through Anywhere Map which has access costs of $30 per year... Gots to be an AOPA member too for the discount... Course they get their data from: http://www.100ll.com Golden Eagle Flight Prep has a link to fuel pricing (its a free download from http://www.duats.com/cirrus.shtml or http://www.flightprep.com ) They link to AirNav for fuel pricing... EAA is linked for fuel prices through here and made requests of the membership to keep it current and list your favorites for flying to Aventure 2007: http://map.aeroplanner.com/tools/fbomap.cfm Requires at least a Premium subscription of $12.95 per month or $119.95 per year... Also "rideshare" through he http://www.airventure.org/rideshare/default.asp So I really didn't find anything new... Maybe we need to list airports within walking distance of mowgas and bring our fuel cans? ;-) |
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Darrel Toepfer wrote:
EAA is linked for fuel prices through here and made requests of the membership to keep it current and list your favorites for flying to Aventure 2007: http://map.aeroplanner.com/tools/fbomap.cfm Mybad, even their free version includes access to FBO's and Fuel Prices... |
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"RST Engineering" wrote:
I'd like a consensus opinion from the newsgroup denizens who use any of the popular "fuel pricing" websites as to the one that they find the most accurate. My personal favorite over the last few years has been Airnav, but I'm willing to be persuaded that there is better. Got to put my two cents worth in here. A few years ago (2002) I used Airnav to plan our trip to Oshkosh from the northwest, with stops in Washington DC, New York, and Macinac Island. My thought was to use mogas where possible. We left home and flew to Pullman in eastern Washington for the first fillup. When we were passing 25 mi. north of Helena, MT, the engine quit - vapor locked. Contributing factors were the high temperature (85 F @ 9500'), the (I suspect) old mogas I bought in Pullman, and my fuel system design, having the electric pump forward of the firewall and no forward-facing air scoops on the tank vents. Fortunately things cooled off on the glide down and I was able to effect a restart as I was about to enter downwind for a soybean field; which would likely have totaled the plane and possibly us as well. We flew in to Helena and replaced the mogas with 100 LL. I have since corrected the design deficiencies but I can't do anything about the weather (no matter what ALgore says). One thing I can do is be very careful as to when and where I burn mogas. I will not buy it from a source which is unknown to me. This lets out every strange airport. I will not use mogas on hot days nor at high altitudes. Mogas burns clean and costs a buck or so less. 100 LL tends to foul my plugs and costs more. My engine will run with two or three fouled plugs. It won't run at all if it vapor locks. I've told this tale before and have gotten used to the inevitable flaming. I'm *not* recommending that anyone use any particular fuel. Fill it up with Dilithium crystals if you like. I'll spend the extra buck for avgas when I head out over the Rockies for OSH. YMMV Rich S. |
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Rich S. wrote:
"RST Engineering" wrote: I'd like a consensus opinion from the newsgroup denizens who use any of the popular "fuel pricing" websites as to the one that they find the most accurate. My personal favorite over the last few years has been Airnav, but I'm willing to be persuaded that there is better. Got to put my two cents worth in here. A few years ago (2002) I used Airnav to plan our trip to Oshkosh from the northwest, with stops in Washington DC, New York, and Macinac Island. My thought was to use mogas where possible. I think I found your problem. You went from the NW to OSH with stops in DC & NY. |
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
... I think I found your problem. You went from the NW to OSH with stops in DC & NY. I used cheap no-lead charts, too! |
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Rich S. wrote:
I have since corrected the design deficiencies but I can't do anything about the weather (no matter what ALgore says). One thing I can do is be very careful as to when and where I burn mogas. I will not buy it from a source which is unknown to me. This lets out every strange airport. I will not use mogas on hot days nor at high altitudes. Why is mogas from an unknown source worse than avgas from an unknown source? Matt |
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