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Old April 14th 05, 02:00 AM
Ron Wanttaja
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:10:56 GMT, Anthony W wrote:


Don't be surprised to see Zoom take this and write up a story about
having his life threatened.


Why can't some one at SnF get a restraining order against him then when
he shows up they can have him arrested?


Actually, they issued him a formal trespass warning when they kicked him out
back in the '90s. It's a misdemeanor if he comes on the grounds.

As Richard posted, he'd promised to behave after a previous "permanent"
ejection, and didn't. Since his final ejection in 1998, it's illegal for him to
enter the grounds...but he did last year.

For those who think SnF should give him one more chance, consider: He doesn't
keep his word, and he has no compunction about breaking the law. How, exactly,
is Sun and Fun supposed to trust him?


Ron Wanttaja

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Old April 14th 05, 02:37 AM
Anthony W
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:

Why can't some one at SnF get a restraining order against him then when
he shows up they can have him arrested?



Actually, they issued him a formal trespass warning when they kicked him out
back in the '90s. It's a misdemeanor if he comes on the grounds.

As Richard posted, he'd promised to behave after a previous "permanent"
ejection, and didn't. Since his final ejection in 1998, it's illegal for him to
enter the grounds...but he did last year.

For those who think SnF should give him one more chance, consider: He doesn't
keep his word, and he has no compunction about breaking the law. How, exactly,
is Sun and Fun supposed to trust him?


Ron Wanttaja


The difference with a restraining order is that he would have gone to
the gray-motel for a few days.

Tony
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Old April 14th 05, 07:02 AM
Ron Wanttaja
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:37:14 GMT, Anthony W wrote:

Ron Wanttaja wrote:


Actually, they issued him a formal trespass warning when they kicked him out
back in the '90s. It's a misdemeanor if he comes on the grounds.


The difference with a restraining order is that he would have gone to
the gray-motel for a few days.


Yep. Ignoring the no-trespass notice is a misdemeanor, but ignoring a
restraining order would be a felony.

There's a possibility Zoom's stunt played a part in the dismissal of the
"Invasion of Privacy" half of Campbell's suit. As I posted a while back,
Campbell's gaining access last year was a perfect example of *why* SnF had felt
it necessary to post his driver's license photo at the entries. The Clerk of
Court's web page...

http://evilurl.com/HELLhymentitRUMP (doncha just LOVE evilurl.com? :-)

....doesn't list a transcript of the hearing on the motion to dismiss, just the
judge's order dismissing that count. However, Campbell's attorney declined the
opportunity to refile (that's the 11/22 letter from Mr. Kuhn). It might have
been because of the security company's legal arguments...or it could have been
because Zoom's actions made it impossible to claim that posting the photo was
unnecessary.

In Zoom's answers to interrogatories, he refuses to answer some questions
because of Sun-N-Fun's supposed "...propensity to use some information in a
smear campaign on the internet." Sounds to me like he's blaming SnF for the
things said about him on RAH. Interesting, no?

Ron Wanttaja
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Old April 14th 05, 07:29 AM
Anthony W
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:37:14 GMT, Anthony W wrote:


Ron Wanttaja wrote:



Actually, they issued him a formal trespass warning when they kicked him out
back in the '90s. It's a misdemeanor if he comes on the grounds.


The difference with a restraining order is that he would have gone to
the gray-motel for a few days.



Yep. Ignoring the no-trespass notice is a misdemeanor, but ignoring a
restraining order would be a felony.

There's a possibility Zoom's stunt played a part in the dismissal of the
"Invasion of Privacy" half of Campbell's suit. As I posted a while back,
Campbell's gaining access last year was a perfect example of *why* SnF had felt
it necessary to post his driver's license photo at the entries. The Clerk of
Court's web page...

http://evilurl.com/HELLhymentitRUMP (doncha just LOVE evilurl.com? :-)

...doesn't list a transcript of the hearing on the motion to dismiss, just the
judge's order dismissing that count. However, Campbell's attorney declined the
opportunity to refile (that's the 11/22 letter from Mr. Kuhn). It might have
been because of the security company's legal arguments...or it could have been
because Zoom's actions made it impossible to claim that posting the photo was
unnecessary.

In Zoom's answers to interrogatories, he refuses to answer some questions
because of Sun-N-Fun's supposed "...propensity to use some information in a
smear campaign on the internet." Sounds to me like he's blaming SnF for the
things said about him on RAH. Interesting, no?

Ron Wanttaja


Egads, this guy should be locked up.

Tony
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Old April 14th 05, 09:17 AM
Roger
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:07:29 GMT, Dave S
wrote:



Darrel Toepfer wrote:
If they'd have taped all the doors with that stuff, problem solved.
Florida has already proven that without food or water you'll eventually
expire from natural causes...


Of course, most people given food and water sitll expire from natural
causes.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


That same "proof" occurs in every state around the nation, probably on a
daily basis.. it just doesn't become a manipulative media spectacle.

Dave


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Old April 14th 05, 01:50 PM
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Dave S wrote:

That same "proof" occurs in every state around the nation, probably on a
daily basis.. it just doesn't become a manipulative media spectacle.


Thats true, people get served legal documentation all the time and you
never read about it anywhere...
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Old April 14th 05, 01:55 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Richard Riley wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:59:47 GMT, "Dude" wrote:

:
: That's exactly what they did last time. He got in a fight, they
: issued him a tresspass notice and escorted him from the grounds. He
: did it again, they issued him a tresspass notice and escorted him from
: the grounds. To get back in he had to sign a "code of conduct"
: agreement. Then he violated that by serving SnF volunteers with a
: SLAPP suit in the middle of the show, while they were working.
: :
:
:Who is he "fighting" with that can't put him down with a single lick?
:
Each time he's been ejected he's claimed that someone from SnF has run
him over (with a golf cart in one case, and the garbage tractor in the
other) and that he had serious physical injuries. That was without
any actual physical contact.

Imagine how long you'd be in court with him if you actually DID lay
him out.

So, yes, they were basically yelling matches, perhaps with a shove
thrown in. IIRC it was Frank Hitlaw - who occasionally shows up here
in RAH - and RB Brady from Parascender. RB was recovering from a
heart attack at the time.

John, if you read this - I have several pictures of Zoom being
escorted from the SnF grounds by police. Would you have space at
Zoomland to post them?


I'd like to see them if you don't mind sending them to my AOL address.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old April 14th 05, 01:58 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:37:14 GMT, Anthony W wrote:


Ron Wanttaja wrote:



Actually, they issued him a formal trespass warning when they kicked him out
back in the '90s. It's a misdemeanor if he comes on the grounds.


The difference with a restraining order is that he would have gone to
the gray-motel for a few days.



Yep. Ignoring the no-trespass notice is a misdemeanor, but ignoring a
restraining order would be a felony.

There's a possibility Zoom's stunt played a part in the dismissal of the
"Invasion of Privacy" half of Campbell's suit. As I posted a while back,
Campbell's gaining access last year was a perfect example of *why* SnF had felt
it necessary to post his driver's license photo at the entries. The Clerk of
Court's web page...

http://evilurl.com/HELLhymentitRUMP (doncha just LOVE evilurl.com? :-)

...doesn't list a transcript of the hearing on the motion to dismiss, just the
judge's order dismissing that count. However, Campbell's attorney declined the
opportunity to refile (that's the 11/22 letter from Mr. Kuhn). It might have
been because of the security company's legal arguments...or it could have been
because Zoom's actions made it impossible to claim that posting the photo was
unnecessary.

In Zoom's answers to interrogatories, he refuses to answer some questions
because of Sun-N-Fun's supposed "...propensity to use some information in a
smear campaign on the internet." Sounds to me like he's blaming SnF for the
things said about him on RAH. Interesting, no?

Ron Wanttaja


Has he ever actually admitted fault for his losing jobs and false
claims? Just how many types is certified in now?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old April 14th 05, 02:04 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Anthony W wrote:

Ron Wanttaja wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:37:14 GMT, Anthony W wrote:


Ron Wanttaja wrote:




Actually, they issued him a formal trespass warning when they kicked
him out
back in the '90s. It's a misdemeanor if he comes on the grounds.


The difference with a restraining order is that he would have gone to
the gray-motel for a few days.




Yep. Ignoring the no-trespass notice is a misdemeanor, but ignoring a
restraining order would be a felony.
There's a possibility Zoom's stunt played a part in the dismissal of the
"Invasion of Privacy" half of Campbell's suit. As I posted a while back,
Campbell's gaining access last year was a perfect example of *why* SnF
had felt
it necessary to post his driver's license photo at the entries. The
Clerk of
Court's web page...
http://evilurl.com/HELLhymentitRUMP (doncha just LOVE evilurl.com? :-)

...doesn't list a transcript of the hearing on the motion to dismiss,
just the
judge's order dismissing that count. However, Campbell's attorney
declined the
opportunity to refile (that's the 11/22 letter from Mr. Kuhn). It
might have
been because of the security company's legal arguments...or it could
have been
because Zoom's actions made it impossible to claim that posting the
photo was
unnecessary.

In Zoom's answers to interrogatories, he refuses to answer some questions
because of Sun-N-Fun's supposed "...propensity to use some information
in a
smear campaign on the internet." Sounds to me like he's blaming SnF
for the
things said about him on RAH. Interesting, no?

Ron Wanttaja



Egads, this guy should be locked up.

Tony


Hey, I don't want my tax dollars paying for his room and board. Then
again I'd like to see the look on his face when he meets his new cell
mate who hasn't seen a female in years. Ain't love grand?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old April 14th 05, 07:31 PM
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Richard Riley wrote:

John, if you read this - I have several pictures of Zoom being
escorted from the SnF grounds by police. Would you have space at
Zoomland to post them?


I've received the photos and posted them along with a summary and some
links: http://www.ousterhout.net/zoom/zoomjection.html

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