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Old March 16th 13, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jeremy Keeling
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of nothing but
a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd



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Old March 16th 13, 09:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

On 3/16/2013 1:03 PM, Jeremy Keeling wrote:
A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of nothing but
a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd


One lesson might be "don't park it with full up elevator". It's strange
to me a camera would be focused on such a small area, unless it was an
intentional event.

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Old March 16th 13, 10:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Sean F (F2)
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

Thats hilarious! thanks for sharing!
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Old March 17th 13, 12:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ralph Jones[_3_]
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:03:02 +0000, Jeremy Keeling
wrote:

A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of nothing but
a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd


Wouldn't have happened if he had a treadmill.
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Old March 17th 13, 12:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ralph Jones[_3_]
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:14:55 -0700, Eric Greenwell
wrote:

On 3/16/2013 1:03 PM, Jeremy Keeling wrote:
A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of nothing but
a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd


One lesson might be "don't park it with full up elevator". It's strange
to me a camera would be focused on such a small area, unless it was an
intentional event.


Intentional indeed. I'd say it's a model.
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Old March 17th 13, 02:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 18:54:55 -0600, Ralph Jones wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:14:55 -0700, Eric Greenwell
wrote:

On 3/16/2013 1:03 PM, Jeremy Keeling wrote:
A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of nothing
but a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd


One lesson might be "don't park it with full up elevator". It's strange
to me a camera would be focused on such a small area, unless it was an
intentional event.


Intentional indeed. I'd say it's a model.


Agreed. It doesn't look windy enough, judging from the way the scenery
isn't waving (much), to lift even quite a light GA aircraft. Nothing is
really moving apart from a bit of dust. And what about that wing being
picked up just after it lifted off: natural stability or a crafty twitch
on the sticks?


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Old March 17th 13, 02:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jeremy Keeling
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

At 00:54 17 March 2013, Ralph Jones wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:14:55 -0700, Eric Greenwell
wrote:

On 3/16/2013 1:03 PM, Jeremy Keeling wrote:
A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of nothing

but
a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd


One lesson might be "don't park it with full up elevator". It's strange
to me a camera would be focused on such a small area, unless it was an
intentional event.


Intentional indeed. I'd say it's a model.


Actually this business about parking with full elevator is a good one.
Some clubs I know are very good, in my opinion, in that they do up the
pilots harness around the joystick after landing in order to hold it in a
back position (full up elevator) so that as the glider is being towed back
to the launch point the control surfaces don't 'clunk around' etc. I think
this is a good idea, but typically what happened as the aircraft got back
to the launch point is that they would be lined up for launch, into wind
ofcourse, with full elevator still on. It seems to me to be a good point
about not leaving aircraft parked with full elevator, particularly into
wind.
Definetly a lesson to be learned there...

I don't think the aircraft is a model haha, look at the relative size of
everything around it.
It seems to me that the CCTV camera would be looking towards an aircraft
parking area maybe? Or perhaps the other aircraft that were there had
already been tossed over and the person fetched his camera to catch the
last one...I dunno.


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Old March 17th 13, 04:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

On Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:03:02 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Keeling wrote:
A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of nothing but

a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...



http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd


Hence, the importance of tying down.
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Old March 17th 13, 06:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Chris Rollings[_2_]
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

At 02:25 17 March 2013, Jeremy Keeling wrote:
At 00:54 17 March 2013, Ralph Jones wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:14:55 -0700, Eric Greenwell
wrote:

On 3/16/2013 1:03 PM, Jeremy Keeling wrote:
A stationary aircraft with no pilot inside took off because of

nothing
but
a stiff breeze...lessons to be learned...

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/...keoff/886gu2cd

One lesson might be "don't park it with full up elevator". It's strange


to me a camera would be focused on such a small area, unless it was an
intentional event.


Intentional indeed. I'd say it's a model.


Actually this business about parking with full elevator is a good one.
Some clubs I know are very good, in my opinion, in that they do up the
pilots harness around the joystick after landing in order to hold it in a
back position (full up elevator) so that as the glider is being towed

back
to the launch point the control surfaces don't 'clunk around' etc. I

think
this is a good idea, but typically what happened as the aircraft got back
to the launch point is that they would be lined up for launch, into wind
ofcourse, with full elevator still on. It seems to me to be a good point
about not leaving aircraft parked with full elevator, particularly into
wind.
Definetly a lesson to be learned there...

I don't think the aircraft is a model haha, look at the relative size of
everything around it.
It seems to me that the CCTV camera would be looking towards an aircraft
parking area maybe? Or perhaps the other aircraft that were there had
already been tossed over and the person fetched his camera to catch the
last one...I dunno.


Up elevator only matters on a nose-wheel aircraft. Most empty gliders sit
with the tail-wheel or skid on the ground so elevator position is almost
irrelevant.




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Old March 17th 13, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default Aircraft takes off with no pilot...because of wind.

On 3/16/2013 11:42 PM, Chris Rollings wrote:
At 02:25 17 March 2013, Jeremy Keeling wrote:



I don't think the aircraft is a model haha, look at the relative size of
everything around it.
It seems to me that the CCTV camera would be looking towards an aircraft
parking area maybe? Or perhaps the other aircraft that were there had
already been tossed over and the person fetched his camera to catch the
last one...I dunno.


Up elevator only matters on a nose-wheel aircraft. Most empty gliders sit
with the tail-wheel or skid on the ground so elevator position is almost
irrelevant.


The comparable glider errors I see are leaving the tail dolly attached
to an unattended, unsecured glider; not putting the flaps into full
negative; and not turning the glider perpendicular to the wind.

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