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New FSS Policy
FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or
BEFORE your ETA... Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for 0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan with a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off (probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual so my buddy could see his house.) So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no idea why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment to ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now their policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...) Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at 1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there) my call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm on the ground. So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order... Jay Beckman PP-ASEL AZ Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ (Now adding 10 minutes to all ETE calculations!) |
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Sounds good to me. Much easier for them to make a phone call than to
scramble a CAP flight for a pilot who simply forgot to close a VFR flight plan. Seems like this private industry thing might actually be able to control costs - who woulda thunk it! -- Guy |
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This is not a good thing. If the contact number is your home number I can
just here the phone call. MY WIFE: Hello FSS: Yes has Mr Giacona arrived yet? MY WIFE: No FSS: OK Thanks My wife then begins to think I've crashed & burned, meanwhile I'm taxiing into my hanger 5 minutes behind schedule. "Jay Beckman" wrote in message newsU8af.564$bo.388@fed1read01... FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or BEFORE your ETA... Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for 0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan with a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off (probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual so my buddy could see his house.) So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no idea why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment to ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now their policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...) Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at 1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there) my call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm on the ground. So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order... Jay Beckman PP-ASEL AZ Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ (Now adding 10 minutes to all ETE calculations!) |
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So now you know--give them your cell phone number!
"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message news:ly9af.2056$5N1.1831@dukeread08... This is not a good thing. If the contact number is your home number I can just here the phone call. MY WIFE: Hello FSS: Yes has Mr Giacona arrived yet? MY WIFE: No FSS: OK Thanks My wife then begins to think I've crashed & burned, meanwhile I'm taxiing into my hanger 5 minutes behind schedule. "Jay Beckman" wrote in message newsU8af.564$bo.388@fed1read01... FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or BEFORE your ETA... Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for 0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan with a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off (probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual so my buddy could see his house.) So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no idea why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment to ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now their policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...) Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at 1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there) my call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm on the ground. So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order... Jay Beckman PP-ASEL AZ Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ (Now adding 10 minutes to all ETE calculations!) |
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My wife got one of those calls once.
Younger brother arranged a 'training' flight from Pensacola to Schenectady. He was in the navy, and a group of guys wanted to go to a wedding. His training flight was their transportation. He took a bus to Central Massachusetts, and I flew him back in a rented Cessna. The senior officer of the group mis-understood the directions, and was waiting in the wrong place at the airport. He ended up calling my house asking why we were an hour late. I had already dropped off little brother and was on my way back home. Wife was not happy. "Jay Beckman" wrote in message newsU8af.564$bo.388@fed1read01... FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or BEFORE your ETA... Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for 0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan with a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off (probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual so my buddy could see his house.) So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no idea why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment to ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now their policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...) Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at 1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there) my call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm on the ground. So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order... Jay Beckman PP-ASEL AZ Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ (Now adding 10 minutes to all ETE calculations!) |
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"Guy Elden Jr" wrote in message oups.com... Sounds good to me. Much easier for them to make a phone call than to scramble a CAP flight for a pilot who simply forgot to close a VFR flight plan. Seems like this private industry thing might actually be able to control costs - who woulda thunk it! The new policy isn't making a phone call instead of scrambling a CAP flight, it's calling at or before the ETA instead of beginning a search after the ETA. The first step in the search was always a phone call. |
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In a previous article, "Jay Beckman" said:
FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or BEFORE your ETA... That happened to me once about 8 years ago. I was on a VFR flight plan to Saranac Lake, but since it was a calm day I decided to take a circuit around Whiteface Mountain before landing. I was about 10 minutes over ETA when somebody called on Saranac Lake Unicom asking if I was on the frequency, because Flight Service had called them to see if I'd arrived yet. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ Why is there only one Monopolies and Mergers Commission? -- JNP |
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:ly9af.2056$5N1.1831@dukeread08... This is not a good thing. If the contact number is your home number I can just here the phone call. MY WIFE: Hello FSS: Yes has Mr Giacona arrived yet? MY WIFE: No FSS: OK Thanks My wife then begins to think I've crashed & burned, meanwhile I'm taxiing into my hanger 5 minutes behind schedule. Gig, That's my take on this too. IMO, it's "uber efficient" when dealing with a bug-smashing C172 just out for a breakfast run like I was this morning. Kind of scared me at first. Jay |
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... In a previous article, "Jay Beckman" said: FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or BEFORE your ETA... That happened to me once about 8 years ago. I was on a VFR flight plan to Saranac Lake, but since it was a calm day I decided to take a circuit around Whiteface Mountain before landing. I was about 10 minutes over ETA when somebody called on Saranac Lake Unicom asking if I was on the frequency, because Flight Service had called them to see if I'd arrived yet. If you were ten minutes over your ETA it didn't happen to you. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Guy Elden Jr" wrote in message oups.com... Sounds good to me. Much easier for them to make a phone call than to scramble a CAP flight for a pilot who simply forgot to close a VFR flight plan. Seems like this private industry thing might actually be able to control costs - who woulda thunk it! The new policy isn't making a phone call instead of scrambling a CAP flight, it's calling at or before the ETA instead of beginning a search after the ETA. The first step in the search was always a phone call. Yep, it was 30 minutes of grace period and then 30 minutes of hunting around and sending ALNOTs before you ever got anywhere near a real SAR response. |
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