USS Liberty Challenge/Reward

ojunk (Mike Weeks) wrote:
(Issac Goldberg) wrote:
Once again repeating ...
July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times
...
So it's only fair ...
Ah clueless -- this came FROM the Pentagon; not some deep buried "deep throat"
saying "hey press, psst -- check out ..."
So to close out, once again: "Do not worry, remember the absence of evidence
for a conspiracy is proof there were two conspiracies, the second to cover up
the first."
MW

Weeks, having been exposed as a fraud for being unable
to name the Congressional Committee which he alleges
held an investigation to determine whether the attack
on the Liberty was intentional or not, is reduced to
repeating himself. This is not unusual for Weeks,
since normal logic shows he is on the losing
side of this argument. Weeks believes that if he uses
enough insults, name calling, character assassination,
and repeating the same failed arguments, that somehow
people will miss the fact that he and Cristol have
totally discredited themselves.

So we again ask Weeks to tell us which Congressional
committee held hearings and investigated the question
of whether the attack on the Liberty was intentional
or not. And we know the Weeks cannot answer because
there were no hearings by a Congressional committee
on this question.

wrote in message ...
Hey Goldberg.. (What's your real name?) I notice that you always post stuff
that is against Jews and Israel. why is it that you post under the "Jewish
name yet you seem to hate them all collectively? is this something you
learned at Stormfront.com Is your sole purpose in life to post these lies?

The sad fact is that the Zionist movement was hijacked by
terrorists in organizations like Irgun (whose bombing of
the King David Hotel resulted in the deaths of a dozen
Jews) and the Stern gang (which was responsible for the
assassination of the mediator from the United Nations,
Count Fouke Bernadotte). The leaders of the same
terrorist organizations, Begin and Shamir, both became Prime
Minister of Israel. Maybe this is why Palestinians turn
to terrorism, because Zionist terrorists demonstrated that
terrorism works.

So you believe EVERYTHING that comes out of the Pentagon?

Hint: the Pentagon announced its intention to set up a
'disinformation' office to confuse the enemy. Should we
believe them? If so, how do we know which Pentagon
public statement is disinformation?

Hint: the neoClowns in the Pentagon (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Feith,
etc.) told us that the Iraqi people would welcome the U.S.
invasion of their country, and throw flower petals in the
path of our U.S. troops. Opps!

Goldberg, are you one of the neoClowns?

How?
The command to destory the naval records would have to pass
several
hands between the president and the corporal that would press the
"erase" botton. Every hand along the way would be a risk factor
that
could take an interest in the records just because the president
wanted
them erased.

Well, here is one way to do it:

July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times

HOUSTON, July 8 - Military records that could help establish
President
Bush's whereabouts during his disputed service in the Texas Air
National Guard more than 30 years ago have been inadvertently
destroyed, according to the Pentagon.

snip

What part of "according to the Pentagon" didn't you read?

Do you believe EVERYTHING that comes out of the Pentagon?

Nobody could be that stupid.

It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??
"Issac Goldberg" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
. com...
How?
The command to destory the naval records would have to pass several
hands between the president and the corporal that would press the
"erase" botton. Every hand along the way would be a risk factor
that
could take an interest in the records just because the president
wanted
them erased.

(Issac Goldberg) wrote in message
. com...
Well, here is one way to do it:

July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times

It said the payroll records of "numerous service members," including
former First Lt. Bush, had been ruined in 1996 and 1997 by the Defense
Finance and Accounting Service during a project to salvage
deteriorating microfilm. No back-up paper copies could be found, it
added in notices dated June 25.

You can run such a story on 25 years old records, and 25 days old
records.

You asked, "How?" And I provided you with one real life example.
LBJ could have used a similar method to have evidence destroyed in
the case of the USS Liberty attack.

Besides, in 1997 Bush was not the president,
so the interest in him was much lower.

Funny, when Bush released some of his records a number of months
ago, nothing was said of the destroyed records. Perhaps they
were not destroyed in 1997, but more recently? When you are
president, everybody is eager to follow your direct orders,
apparently, even if the orders may be illegal. It would take
a real suicidal personality to disobey a direct order from
the President of the United States. They say, "you can't
fight City Hall." In this case, it would be "you can't fight
the White House."

Nice side step .As usual you avoid the question with more garbage.

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Issac Goldberg" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
...
Hey Goldberg.. (What's your real name?) I notice that you always post
stuff
that is against Jews and Israel. why is it that you post under the
"Jewish
name yet you seem to hate them all collectively? is this something you
learned at Stormfront.com Is your sole purpose in life to post these
lies?

The sad fact is that the Zionist movement was hijacked by
terrorists in organizations like Irgun (whose bombing of
the King David Hotel resulted in the deaths of a dozen
Jews) and the Stern gang (which was responsible for the
assassination of the mediator from the United Nations,
Count Fouke Bernadotte). The leaders of the same
terrorist organizations, Begin and Shamir, both became Prime
Minister of Israel. Maybe this is why Palestinians turn
to terrorism, because Zionist terrorists demonstrated that
terrorism works.

So you believe EVERYTHING that comes out of the Pentagon?

Hint: the Pentagon announced its intention to set up a
'disinformation' office to confuse the enemy. Should we
believe them? If so, how do we know which Pentagon
public statement is disinformation?

Hint: the neoClowns in the Pentagon (Wolfowitz, Pearl, Feith,
etc.) told us that the Iraqi people would welcome the U.S.
invasion of their country, and throw flower petals in the
path of our U.S. troops. Opps!

Goldberg, are you one of the neoClowns?

How?
The command to destory the naval records would have to pass
several
hands between the president and the corporal that would press
the
"erase" botton. Every hand along the way would be a risk
factor
that
could take an interest in the records just because the
president
wanted
them erased.

Well, here is one way to do it:

July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times

HOUSTON, July 8 - Military records that could help establish
President
Bush's whereabouts during his disputed service in the Texas Air
National Guard more than 30 years ago have been inadvertently
destroyed, according to the Pentagon.

snip

What part of "according to the Pentagon" didn't you read?

Do you believe EVERYTHING that comes out of the Pentagon?

Nobody could be that stupid.

Cause we Jews didn't do it!!

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
...
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??
"Issac Goldberg" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
. com...
How?
The command to destory the naval records would have to pass
several
hands between the president and the corporal that would press the
"erase" botton. Every hand along the way would be a risk factor
that
could take an interest in the records just because the president
wanted
them erased.

(Issac Goldberg) wrote in message
. com...
Well, here is one way to do it:

July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times

It said the payroll records of "numerous service members," including
former First Lt. Bush, had been ruined in 1996 and 1997 by the
Defense
Finance and Accounting Service during a project to salvage
deteriorating microfilm. No back-up paper copies could be found, it
added in notices dated June 25.

You can run such a story on 25 years old records, and 25 days old
records.

You asked, "How?" And I provided you with one real life example.
LBJ could have used a similar method to have evidence destroyed in
the case of the USS Liberty attack.

Besides, in 1997 Bush was not the president,
so the interest in him was much lower.

Funny, when Bush released some of his records a number of months
ago, nothing was said of the destroyed records. Perhaps they
were not destroyed in 1997, but more recently? When you are
president, everybody is eager to follow your direct orders,
apparently, even if the orders may be illegal. It would take
a real suicidal personality to disobey a direct order from
the President of the United States. They say, "you can't
fight City Hall." In this case, it would be "you can't fight
the White House."

"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message . ..
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??

Why will Israel not release crucial information about the attack?

Who in the IAF knew the USS Liberty had been identified as an American
spy ship the morning of 8 June?

The repeated overflights of the Liberty, who was flying those planes,
what did they report to the IAF controllers?

The airborne radar some say was used at attack time to guide the
initial attack jets to their target, was it also used to track the
Liberty during the morning hours of 8 June?

Were IAF CDR Hod and IDF COS Rabin told of the american spy ship the
morning of 8 June?

Why has Israel refused to release the detailed testimony of its
aftermath investigations?

In the Nowicki document there are clearly two distinct mentions of the
American flag by the Israelis in the intercepted conversations. Yet
in the released NSA intercept tapes, there is only one time when the
flag is mentioned. What would the Israeli attackers have been talking
about in that earlier conversation reported by Nowicki when they
mention the American flag? ( that first mention, an est 50 minutes
before the 2nd, is what caught the airborne NSA crew's attention to
the attack )

-Steve

why dont you bitch and moan about the USS Cole???
"Steve Richter" wrote in message
m...
"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
. ..
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??

Why will Israel not release crucial information about the attack?

Who in the IAF knew the USS Liberty had been identified as an American
spy ship the morning of 8 June?

The repeated overflights of the Liberty, who was flying those planes,
what did they report to the IAF controllers?

The airborne radar some say was used at attack time to guide the
initial attack jets to their target, was it also used to track the
Liberty during the morning hours of 8 June?

Were IAF CDR Hod and IDF COS Rabin told of the american spy ship the
morning of 8 June?

Why has Israel refused to release the detailed testimony of its
aftermath investigations?

In the Nowicki document there are clearly two distinct mentions of the
American flag by the Israelis in the intercepted conversations. Yet
in the released NSA intercept tapes, there is only one time when the
flag is mentioned. What would the Israeli attackers have been talking
about in that earlier conversation reported by Nowicki when they
mention the American flag? ( that first mention, an est 50 minutes
before the 2nd, is what caught the airborne NSA crew's attention to
the attack )

-Steve

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:21:21 GMT, "Jeffrey Krantz"
wrote:

why dont you bitch and moan about the USS Cole???

Its sub judice

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

ojunk (Mike Weeks) wrote:
(Issac Goldberg) wrote:
(Mike Weeks) wrote:
(Issac Goldberg) wrote:
Senator Hickenlooper: The public is thoroughly dissatisfied
with the situation [regarding the response to the attack on
the USS Liberty]. I don't know. It is the seemingly cavalier
attitude expressed by Israel in some ways apparently accepted
by us on a very tragic situation. I think there is utterly no
excuse for it.
In case the light hasn't gone on, Senator Hickenlooper didn't speak for the
public ...
So, according to Weeks, United States Senators who are elected
do not speak 'for the public.'

Senator Hickenlooper was speaking for himself when he
expressed his opinion regarding the "public's reaction." Period.

Elected officials whose statements do not agree with
public opinion often become 'former elected officials'
after their next election.

Besides, his opinion has nothing whatsoever to do with the established fact
that Israel did in fact apologize ...

The point is that the apology lacked sincerity.

As for Senator Hickenlooper's claim that "the cavalier
attitude expressed by Israel [is] in some ways apparently
accepted by us on a very tragic situation," LBJ's continued
inability to accurately give the correct casualty figures
could accurately be described as part of that cavalier
attitude. In his autobiography "The Vantage Point," he
continues to understate how many Americans died in the
Israeli attack on the Liberty.

This is another example of LBJ's willingness to lie, like
his repeated lies about sending U.S. ground troops to
Vietnam. During the 1964 presidential election, Johnson,
the 'peace' candidate, said, "I'm not going to send
American boys to do the job that the Vietnamese boys
should be doing." The Pentagon Papers reveal that
Johnson had already made the decision to send ground
troops, he was just waiting until after his 1964
reelection to implement his decision.

"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message ...
why dont you bitch and moan about the USS Cole???

The Cole was attacked by enemies of the US. Is that the how the
attack on the Liberty should be considered? Does Israel treat all
foreigners like they are palestinians? Why will it not release basic
information about the attack it says was accidental?

"Steve Richter" wrote in message
m...
"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
. ..
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??

Why will Israel not release crucial information about the attack?

Who in the IAF knew the USS Liberty had been identified as an American
spy ship the morning of 8 June?

The repeated overflights of the Liberty, who was flying those planes,
what did they report to the IAF controllers?

The airborne radar some say was used at attack time to guide the
initial attack jets to their target, was it also used to track the
Liberty during the morning hours of 8 June?

Were IAF CDR Hod and IDF COS Rabin told of the american spy ship the
morning of 8 June?

Why has Israel refused to release the detailed testimony of its
aftermath investigations?

In the Nowicki document there are clearly two distinct mentions of the
American flag by the Israelis in the intercepted conversations. Yet
in the released NSA intercept tapes, there is only one time when the
flag is mentioned. What would the Israeli attackers have been talking
about in that earlier conversation reported by Nowicki when they
mention the American flag? ( that first mention, an est 50 minutes
before the 2nd, is what caught the airborne NSA crew's attention to
the attack )

-Steve