How did KPHX Class B get so screwed up?

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

What does it matter since you don't really fly?

I use them in simulation.

Clue #2: Real VFR pilots of real airplanes can go through real class B
airspace without using VFR corridors.

If they are cleared to do so, but they may not be.

I hereby grant you simulated clearance into all simulated Class B airspace.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

What does it matter since you don't really fly?

I use them in simulation.

Clue #2: Real VFR pilots of real airplanes can go through real class B
airspace without using VFR corridors.

If they are cleared to do so, but they may not be.

Then simulate yourself a clearance, twit.

Since you don't really fly, it doesn't matter what happens in the real
world.

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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:50:12 +0100, Mxsmanic
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

Idiot. But then again, I wouldn't trust any children to learn
English from you, let alone French.

The answer is on the same site you glorify and probably smoke
choads from. I quote from the Phoenix TAC:

The *VFR TRANSITION ROUTE* over Phoenix Sky Harbor Int'l Airport is
based on Runway in use. 7s/8: use the West route. 25s/26, use the East
route.

A transition route isn't a corridor. A corridor is outside the Class B; a
transition route goes through it. Look at KSAN to see a true VFR corridor.

As long as we're on the subject, let's mention the LAX Special Flight
Rules Area directly over the airport between 3,500' and 4,500':
http://skyvector.com/perl/code?id=KLAX&scale=3 . It is a VFR route
through KLAX Class B surface area that doesn't require ATC
authorization nor communication with ATC!

There's an explanation of how to use it on the lower left hand corner
of the KLAX Terminal Control Area chart.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

Idiot. But then again, I wouldn't trust any children to learn
English from you, let alone French.

The answer is on the same site you glorify and probably smoke
choads from. I quote from the Phoenix TAC:

The *VFR TRANSITION ROUTE* over Phoenix Sky Harbor Int'l Airport is
based on Runway in use. 7s/8: use the West route. 25s/26, use the East
route.

A transition route isn't a corridor. A corridor is outside the Class B; a
transition route goes through it. Look at KSAN to see a true VFR corridor.

Wrong. SFRA at LAX is a corridor and *IN THE CLASS B*.

Either get your facts straight, or plan to have a size 15 boot
shoved up your ass every time you open your moouth.

BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

Wrong. SFRA at LAX is a corridor and *IN THE CLASS B*.

The SFRA at LAX is a SFRA, and so it is neither a corridor nor a transition
route.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

Wrong. SFRA at LAX is a corridor and *IN THE CLASS B*.

The SFRA at LAX is a SFRA, and so it is neither a corridor nor a transition
route.

Your play on words does you no good, Anthony. It is a corridor,
as it handles both north and southbound traffic, as does the Shoreline
route and Hollywood park mini route.

All of which in the Los Angeles Class B. So for the sake of
everyone here, shut up and stop splitting hairs.

BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

It is a corridor,
as it handles both north and southbound traffic, as does the Shoreline
route and Hollywood park mini route.

A Special Flight Rules Area is just that: an area where the normal rules don't
apply.

Mxsmanic wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

It is a corridor,
as it handles both north and southbound traffic, as does the Shoreline
route and Hollywood park mini route.

A Special Flight Rules Area is just that: an area where the normal rules don't
apply.

My god, you are such an idiot.


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Mxsmanic wrote in
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

Wrong. SFRA at LAX is a corridor and *IN THE CLASS B*.

The SFRA at LAX is a SFRA, and so it is neither a corridor nor a
transition route.


Nope

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

It is a corridor,
as it handles both north and southbound traffic, as does the
Shoreline route and Hollywood park mini route.

A Special Flight Rules Area is just that: an area where the normal
rules don't apply.


Nope


Bertie