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(B2431) wrote
The funny part is under your "aryan" hero Hitler you would have been sent to a
concentration camp or euthansized.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Yes, my IQ might not be high enough.

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...storyid=703396
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/377798.html
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1575

Magnus

(B2431) wrote
The funny part is under your "aryan" hero Hitler you would have been sent to a
concentration camp or euthansized.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Teken from:
http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/
http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/arabs.htm

The following email came from a list member this morning: "Today's
Jews are far from perfect! But their enemies are my enemies too. I
detest the Arabs. To my way of thinking they are two-faced butchers.
It seems as though most of the world's terrorists come from their
countries."

I got a little carried away with my response, I confess. It felt
cleansing, somehow, to list all the reasons why this person was wrong.
Maybe it was my being included in the SPLC's recent "List of 40 to
Watch," meaning right wingers they have targeted for elimination,
wherein I was labeled an anti-semite. (You want anti-semite? I'll
give you anti-semite!) Here is my response, in full:

I haven't the degree of antipathy you feel for Arabs, despite a couple
that I would willingly have dispatched, had it been legal. Nor do I
have any particular love for them, other than that normally reserved
for the underdog. Your hatred seems born of something quite apart from
personal experience. Here is just part of the basis for my outlook:

It wasn't Arabs who tried to steal my law practice - it was a jew.
It wasn't Arabs who threatened to kill my children and wife - it was
jews.
It wasn't Arabs who threatened to kill me - and continue to do so with
regularity - it was/is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who screwed the stockholders of the company I worked
for in SF - it was jews.
It isn't Arabs who fill my email inbox with pornographic spam - it is
jews.
It isn't Arabs who send all those viruses to me over the Internet - it
is jews.
It isn't Arabs who try to get my ISP to cancel my internet access - it
is jews.
It isn't Arabs who periodically forge mass spam mailings to so many,
using my domain name - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who send me all that incredibly vituperative,
irrational and pornographic hate mail - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who blocked my PayPal account and stole the balance it
contained - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who painted a bullseye on my chest by labeling me one
of "40 to watch" - it was jews.
It isn't Arabs who have made it all but impossible for me to work as a
lawyer - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who maintain a dossier on me and draw from it to defame
me on every venue possible - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who have been bent upon bankrupting and imprisoning so
many that I know - it was and is jews.
It isn't Arabs who have arrested and imprisoned Chester Doles as a
felon in possession of a gun, though he is no felon and owned no guns
- it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who indicted David Duke on tax evasion charges that
were pure speculation, forcing a plea deal and a 1-year prison
sentence because he dared not go before a jury - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who arrested Artie Wheeler for domestic terrorism
because he had firearm reloading equipment and supplies - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who arrested and imprisoned Christine Greenwood for
distributing clothing to needy white children - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who sued and bankrupted Richard Butler because he
provided shelter to some derelicts who stupidly shot at some people -
it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who had Ernst Zundel deported to Canada - it was jews
- where he now stands accused of thought crimes - by jews - for which
he could get deported again, to Germany, where he will be tried for
more thought crimes - by jews.
It wasn't Arabs who sued and bankrupted Tom Metzger because one of his
followers stupidly killed another - it was jews.
It isn't Arabs who have hijacked my government - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who have hijacked the American legal system and now are
transforming it to conform to Talmudic law - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who own and run the Federal Reserve Bank, which is in
the process of destroying the dollar and the American economy - it is
jews.
It isn't Arabs rigging the US stock market and commodities futures
markets - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who sent our military into Afghanistan and Iraq - it
was jews.
It isn't Arabs who refuse to serve in the US Military in numbers
proportionate to their population percentage - it is jews (1/10 of 1%,
vs. 2-1/2%).
It wasn't Arabs who sued to remove "under God" from the Pledge of
Allegiance - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who sued to remove the Ten Commandments from that
Alabama courthouse, had Judge Moore removed from the bench and now
seek to disbar him - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who sue to remove nativity scenes from public venues -
it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who erect menorahs in public venues in place of crosses
- it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who sued to remove group prayer from public schools -
it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs suing to remove decorative lights from schools at
Christmas - it was jews.
It isn't Arabs who refuse to allow children to say grace over their
school lunches - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who continue to impose affirmative action upon us in
all walks of life - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who began and continue to expand militant feminism - it
is jews.
It isn't Arabs who buy off all our legislators with our own tax
dollars - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who tried to sink the USS Liberty and killed and
maimed so many of its crewmembers during an extended attack - it was
jews.
It isn't Arabs enacting hate crime laws designed to outlaw criticism
of themselves - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who run NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love
Association) - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs suing to force us to allow homosexuals to lead boy
scout troops - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who started and ran so many black organizations like
the NAACP - it was jews.
It isn't Arabs importing huge numbers of Somalians and Bantu into
American cities - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who formulated American legislation providing pensions
to Russian jewish immigrants for doing nothing - it was jews.
It isn't Arabs who run organized crime throughout America - it is
jews.
It isn't Arabs who import tons of drugs into America every day - it is
jews.
It isn't Arabs who literally own and run all of Hollywood's
moviemaking enterprise - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who literally own and run all of America's mainstream
media - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs spewing obscenity and race-mixing propaganda from the
TV and movie screens - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs trying mightily to block release of the Mel Gibson
movie, "The Passion" - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs lying about and guilt tripping us with "the holocaust"
- it is jews.
It isn't Arabs stealing American tax dollars to fund all their
holocaust monuments throughout America - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who forged the Anne Frank "diary" - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who lied about gas chambers at Dachau and Auschwitz -
it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who lied about mass graves at Treblinka - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who lied about jews being made into lamp shades and
soap during WWII - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who doctored WWII prison camp photos to appear to be
belching smoke from crematoria - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who used WWII pictures of dead non jews, claiming they
were jews - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who made anti-semitical talk punishable by death in
Russia after they took power - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who killed over 20 million Russian Christians - it was
jews.
It wasn't Arabs who looted and destroyed the Russian economy - it was
jews.
It isn't Arabs who have amassed an illegal arsenal of over 300 nuclear
weapons in the Middle East - it is the jews.
It isn't Arabs who brag about controlling America - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who advocate the use of torture by and on Americans -
it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who twist American laws to punish anti-semitical speech
- it is jews.
It isn't Arabs endeavoring to get America to outlaw anti-semitical
speech - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who sell goods that it is illegal in America to boycott
- it is Israeli jews.
It isn't Arabs who extort "fees" for allowing their kosher label on
goods - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who retaliate against rock-throwing children by
shooting them in the head - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs stealing land in Palestine - it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who ran down Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer - it was a
jew.
It isn't Arabs who have caused America to spend $2.5 trillion ($31,250
per American family) in the Middle East - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who send teams of trained assassins into foreign
countries, including America, to kill people with whom Israel
disagrees - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who run the ADL, which maintains dossiers on thousands
of law-abiding American citizens, for the purpose of punishing those
with whom they disagree - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who break into and enter the offices and homes of
law-abiding American citizens, to procure evidence both for their
database and in the hopes of getting evidence they can pass to the FBI
for prosecution - it is jews.
It isn't Arabs who have caused America to go from being the most-loved
country in the world to the most hated - it is jews.

Finally, though most won't believe it (all the preceding are facts -
provable facts):
It isn't Arabs who regularly phony up "hate crimes" against themselves
- it is jews.
It wasn't Arabs who caused the Great Depression - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who started WWI - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who started WWII - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who killed JFK - it was jews.
It wasn't Arabs who demolished the World Trade Center - it was jews.
It isn't Arabs bent upon destroying Christianity - it is jews.

And, lest we forget:
It wasn't Arabs who had Jesus Christ crucified - it was jews.



New America. An idea whose time has come.

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In message , Krztalizer
writes
It was night-time, and military aircraft are camouflaged. What
manoeuvres did he make? What lights was he displaying?

Not to pee in the pool, but Sakhalin-based Suhkoi Su 15s were natural metal -
not that it makes an ounce of difference in this matter.

D'oh! You're right, most Flagons were bright metal. As you say, still
doesn't help much at night. (The Canadians had the right idea - put a
searchlight on their CF-188s that you can shine into the cockpit. Ignore
_that_!)

Su-15 isn't fitted with a cannon. (Carries a gunpod sometimes, but then
you don't load modern aircraft cannon with tracer).

Obviously you haven't watched an aircraft fire a cannon into the air at night.
Basically, it looks like a little chain of pearls and yes its quite visible
from a ways off.

Is that tracer?

There's been a lot of argument for a long time about whether tracer
shells are any use in combat for air gunnery: might be useful for
strafing (where are my shots really going?) but for air-to-air the main
use is to alert an enemy.

Now, if you're training, TP-T makes sense for several reasons (like,
"see what the dispersion, shot pattern, et cetera really is", and "is my
gun boresighted? Even if it is, how precise is it really?" and so on.

But with live ammunition, tracers just warn the enemy they're under
fi and the number of shots taken to "warn the aircraft" are grossly
exceeded by the number of shots fired to "kill the aircraft". Aircraft
guns don't use dual-feed, so you either load tracer or you don't.

Sorry, Paul, just bein' a putz.

From you I'll grin and bear it, Gordon.

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

(B2431) wrote
Check your history, Russia was occupied by the Poles, the Mongols and a few
others.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

I will check the Russian history at http://www.white-history.com

Magnus

(B2431) wrote

God Save the Tsar Vladimir Putin !!!
God Bless Holy Imperial Mother Russia !!!
God Bless all Christian nations of the World !!!

Should we tell him Christians are a minority in Russia?
Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

America is a Christian nation: http://www.bushflash.com/faith.html

It seems that you have never been to Mother Russia.
Tsar Vladimir Putin will put all the problems in the past, and former
Holy Russian Empire will be re-born, in fact is in gestation process
right know.

God is happy with Holy Mother Russia because:
- Christianity tought at schools.
- Orthodox Church has the support of the Tsar.
- New restiction on abortion.
- Flat tax system, as God commands. 10% biblical but 13% is close
enough (America 39%).
- Russia sells food to its neighbors at convenient price.
- Socialism and secular society in the past.
- Government promoting russian women to have babies.
- Low tax, government don't steal from people.
- Gays and lesbians banned from the military.
- Mother Russia has saved Europe many times, from asian invaders and
from Nazis.

Holy Imperial Mother Russia will be the star of Liberty, Freedom and
Christianity in the third millenium.

Constantinople will be a Christian Orthodox city, it will be liberated
from the opression of the barbaric Turks. Tsar Vladimir is already
sharpening his shining sword.

Magnus

(B2431) wrote
Hey, don't insult loons. They are nice birds.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Germany 1920s = Russia 1990s

Tsar Vladimir Putin might be the man to watch on this century. Check
similarities between Russia in the 1990s and Germany in the 1920s.

Germany loses a big war, WW1.
Russia losses a big war, Cold War.

Germany was very poor in the 1920s.
Russia was very poor in the 1990s

Anti-semitism in Germany in the 1920s and 1930s.
Anti-semitism in Russia in the 1990s and 2000s (check the russian
newspapers).

Germany lost territories after WW1.
Russia (Soviet Union) lost territories (10 times the size of France)
after Cold War.

Germany a bad economy in the 1920s.
Russia a bad economy in the 1990s.

Germany and Prussia had a strong military heritage.
Russia has always had a strong military heritage.

Germans humiliated by foreign powers.
Russians humiliated by foreign powers.

Germans angry at the situation, almost losing faith.
Russians angry at the situation, almost losing faith.




Germany: a popular leader gets to power and restore the pride of
German people. The man almost conquers all Europe.

Russia: a popular leader gets to power, people like him, he likes
people. He promises to restore the former might and pride of Imperial
Russia. This man is trying to unite whole Europe, Western European
leaders love him. Yes, they love him. German Cancellor and Italian
Prime Minister are his admirers. Once the British kick Blair out, the
new Prime Minister will be friendly to Russia and Europe because that
is where England naturally belongs.

Magnus

"Alejandro Magno wrote:

The Korean pilot received 3 warnings.
1) Radio communication. He did not respond. Pilot deaf.

Wrong. Osipovich during 1991 gave an interview in which he charged his
superiors with lying about this. Osipovich admitted that he did not attempt
to make contact with the Boeing 747 by radio.

2) Su-15 making manouvers in front of the Korean plane, pilot blind.

Osipovich admitted that he flew alongside the Boeing 747. At no point did he
fly his SU-15 in front of the 747.

3) Su-15 firing his cannon to warn the Korean pilot. Pilot deaf and blind.

Osipovich admitted that it was useless as his SU-15s gun pods did not
contain any tracer rounds. He reprimanded his superiors on the initial story
that he had fired tracers and had attempted radio contact with the Boeing
747.

TJ

In article ,
wrote:

"Keith Willshaw" wrote:

:You are a fool.
:
:The Soviet Army included Georgians, Armenians, Ukranians, ByeloRussians,
:Uzbeks, Kazajhs etc. etc.

Uh, on this one, you may be, too, Keith. Combat units tended to be
90%+ ethnic Russians. The lesser races were relegated to support
formations.

There were exceptions. Certainly, ethnic Russians had the best shot at
senior positions. "Victor Suvorov" writes that Tatars tended to make
the best senior sergeants.

When dealing with conflict in the empire, such as the suppression of the
1956 Budapest revolt, the "second wave" was primarily non-Russian, since
many of the Russian occupation troops had become sympathetic to the
Hungarians. Indeed, it was considered desirable that the new troops not
share a language with the people they were suppressing -- many
Hungarians spoke Russian.

Alejandro Magno wrote:

Buy the book:
Incident at Sakhalin: The True Mission of Kal Flight 007
by Michel Brun, Robert Bononno (Translator)

Brun gets it all mixed up from the start. He even has Osipovich flying a
MiG-31 FOXHOUND, but quite staggeringly fails to realise that the MiG-31 is
a two-man weapons system and therefore would have had a back seat
"witness/participant" to the events.

As to Brun's debris evidence of a 'great air battle"

"1) a fragment of composite material marked on one side BRUNSWICK, NJ UNION
MADE IN USA PVC10-MIL PIPEWRAPI and LR.4 B30 on the other side. The MIL
indicates it is military"

This is basic Home Maintenance / DIY stuff. PIPE WRAP comes in various
thicknesses the "10 MIL" is the thickness of the pipe wrap. 10 MIL
(Millimetres).

Sorry, but Brun is clutching at straws from the start till the end of the
book in great whacko conspiracy theory style.

It seems that you have never been to Mother Russia.

Hey, Mango, when did YOU visit Russia? Never? Then pipe down.


Tsar Vladimir Putin will put all the problems in the past, and former
Holy Russian Empire will be re-born, in fact is in gestation process
right know.

Why insist on using the term Tsar, when everything it represented CAUSED the
revolution in the first place? Russia under the Tsars was oppressive and
backward.


- Mother Russia has saved Europe many times, from asian invaders and
from Nazis.

Back on your medication, fruitcake. You don't "save" Europe by occupying half
of it for 50 years.


Holy Imperial Mother Russia will be the star of Liberty, Freedom and
Christianity in the third millenium.


right after monkeys fly out of my ass.

Mango, you're delusional, and not in a good way.