Stop me, before I do something crazy...

("Dan Luke" wrote)
Did you ever see a Brinks truck in a funeral procession?


No, but I've seen (a movie) where they put the loot in the casket - only to
discover plans changed and the family decided on cremation.

I've seen (a commercial) with a bright red VW Bug at the end of a long line
of black funeral vehicles.

http://www.adclassix.com/vwvolkswagenbusbeetleads.htm
Not in here - Drat. Fun ads, nevertheless.

(NAC) Necessary Aviation Content
http://www.adclassix.com/a3/68vwairplaneengine.html


Montblack
Fun site. My first car:
http://www.adclassix.com/caradsindex.htm
1968 Pontiac Catalina Coup ....with the 400 engine. "Zoom-Zoom"
1968 Pontiac Catalina Sedan (color)

dave wrote:
But does that 12k cover the entire hull value? I would doubt that it
would. It may cover partial value or liability and not in motion.



Full coverage. It had to be since he had a loan on the plane.

"Luke Skywalker" wrote:

a 100 hours a year..my question to someone who tells me this is there
anything else in the "complex" category that one does for 2 hours a
week and stays proficient enough to bet their life on it...?

I never had to bet my life on trigonometry, but it's pretty complex and I
mastered it in a lot fewer than 100 hours.

--
Dan

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus

"Montblack" wrote:

Fun site. My first car:
http://www.adclassix.com/caradsindex.htm
1968 Pontiac Catalina Coup ....with the 400 engine. "Zoom-Zoom"
1968 Pontiac Catalina Sedan (color)

My first car:
http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/cuda6701.htm

--
Dan

"Did you just have a stroke and not tell me?"
- Jiminy Glick

"Peter R." wrote in message
...
On 6/5/2007 3:18:51 PM, "Dan Luke" wrote:

AOPA got me a quote of $3K for $1M smooth, $300K hull on a Turbo 182T.

Wow, really? What kind of hours/safety courses do you have in your
background
that resulted in such a low quote for $1M smooth at that hull value?

I just re-upped with USAIG and am paying $2900 for the '73 Bonanza with a
hull value around $170k (TKS, new engine, tip tanks, new avionics,
turbo-normalized), not $1M smooth. This quote with an IFR rating and about
1,200 total hrs, 600 hrs in the insured aircraft. Or is the difference due
to
the fact that the Bo is a retractable?

Probably.

My insurance went from $3425 on a 1991 B36-TC (HV:$365k), to only $3865 for
a 2006 C400 (HV:$575k).

Dan Luke wrote:
"Montblack" wrote:

Fun site. My first car:
http://www.adclassix.com/caradsindex.htm
1968 Pontiac Catalina Coup ....with the 400 engine. "Zoom-Zoom"
1968 Pontiac Catalina Sedan (color)

My first car:
http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/cuda6701.htm



My second (they didn't have my first on the list) car but not that awful
color. Mine was blue.

http://www.adclassix.com/a3/79chevroletcamaroz28.html

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
Fun site. My first car:
http://www.adclassix.com/caradsindex.htm
1968 Pontiac Catalina Coup ....with the 400 engine. "Zoom-Zoom"
1968 Pontiac Catalina Sedan (color)

My second (they didn't have my first on the list) car but not that awful
color. Mine was blue.

http://www.adclassix.com/a3/79chevroletcamaroz28.html


Links:

http://www.adclassix.com/ads/68pontiaccatalinacoupe.htm
1968 Pontiac Catalina Coup ....with the 400 engine. "Zoom-Zoom"

http://www.adclassix.com/ads/68pontiaccatalinasedan.htm
1968 Pontiac Catalina Sedan (color)


Montblack

Although that's a ton of money for insurance, I'm glad to hear that he
was able to get full coverage. I was wrongly under the impression that
it wasn't available.
Dave
M35

Newps wrote:


dave wrote:
But does that 12k cover the entire hull value? I would doubt that it
would. It may cover partial value or liability and not in motion.



Full coverage. It had to be since he had a loan on the plane.

Dan Luke wrote:
"Luke Skywalker" wrote:

a 100 hours a year..my question to someone who tells me this is there
anything else in the "complex" category that one does for 2 hours a
week and stays proficient enough to bet their life on it...?

I never had to bet my life on trigonometry, but it's pretty complex and I
mastered it in a lot fewer than 100 hours.


Trigonometry is complex? Really??

Matt

On Jun 6, 10:56 am, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Luke Skywalker" wrote:
a 100 hours a year..my question to someone who tells me this is there
anything else in the "complex" category that one does for 2 hours a
week and stays proficient enough to bet their life on it...?

I never had to bet my life on trigonometry, but it's pretty complex and I
mastered it in a lot fewer than 100 hours.

--
Dan

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus

Hello:

I found trig and Calculas (at least basic calculas) not that all
complex.

But even if one found them hard, on the "scale" of how task are
learned trig is a far different task then say programming an FMS or
using a 396 much less interpreting them and not at all similar to the
procedures necessary to operate a "complex" aircraft. And we are not
even talking about "basic" piloting skills that require "motor"
control.

And worse...all this assumes very standardized, procedurized methods
of training.

Most GA training is nothing like that...particularly as one gets into
the various"complex" aircraft that exist today.

I'll give you an example.

about two years ago I gave a pilot a BFR and an insurance renewal
checkout in his Saratoga. He was a fairly "active" (180 hours in the
last year) pilot including some reasonable instrument time. I asked
him "Had any concerns" and he self confessed that he had "almost"
landed gear up at least four times in the last six months.

It didnt take "to long" flying with him to see why. We did six
different approaches and EACH time with no real variation in traffic
he put the gear down at a "different time" in the approach. Sometimes
downwind, sometimes final, in the two instrument approaches, it was
never the same place.

When we met for our next session...I took him to the parking lot of
the local walmart which is on the approach path to a busy metropolitan
airport. We did nothing for 20 minutes but sit and watch the
jetliners approach. his task was to figure out what was the same with
all of them. The answer is that they all put the gear down at the
walmart, and all the 737's went to gear down and flaps 15 right around
the Walmart.

The concept of putting the gear down at the same place at the same
time, had never really been taught to this guy, indeed the concept of
"everything is the same on every landing" was a kind of foreign
concept.

Look at every gear up landing (absent mechanical problems) and I will
show you a pilot whose methodology and procedure skills are non
existant.

If you dont have those and one flies a complex airplane...one is an
accident waiting to happen.

Robert