Brigadier General Olds

I should like to draw your attention to the fact that Robin Olds was a
Brigadier General in the United States Airforce.

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr' Olds.


Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)

Beverly Carmichael wrote:

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr' Olds.

Well Bev.... We have all met people like that.

Pompous people who even when retired insist that every one from
children to their parents address them by their title.

Why I'll bet a plugged nickle that on a saturday night down at the
lodge you insist that everyone call you Colonel instead of just plain
old Bev. And I'll bet the more beers you have in your belly the more
you insists on being called Colonel.


Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)

Beverly Carmichael wrote:

I should like to draw your attention to the fact that Robin Olds was a
Brigadier General in the United States Airforce.

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr' Olds.

Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)

i'd like to draw your attention to the fact that he's dead, so he's the
"late whatever title you use".....

also, you come across as a pompous lifer pig, so go make a Power Point
briefing and leave the rest of us alone.

redc1c4,
"Officers exist to attend meetings and sign for ****."
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

Beverly Carmichael wrote:

I should like to draw your attention to the fact that Robin Olds was a
Brigadier General in the United States Airforce.

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr' Olds.

Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)



When did "Air Force" become one word?

Did we miss something?

BobbyG

General Olds is a triple ace who earned his title many time over, from his
service in World War II through Vietnam.

You, on the other hand, are a petty little twit who cannot possibly conceive
of what it is to serve one's country and lead a meaningful life. Otherwise,
you would not try to degrade those who are obviously better than you.


"shiver" wrote in message
...
Beverly Carmichael wrote:

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr'
Olds.

Well Bev.... We have all met people like that.

Pompous people who even when retired insist that every one from
children to their parents address them by their title.

Why I'll bet a plugged nickle that on a saturday night down at the
lodge you insist that everyone call you Colonel instead of just plain
old Bev. And I'll bet the more beers you have in your belly the more
you insists on being called Colonel.


Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)

"Beverly Carmichael" wrote in message
. 190.155...
I should like to draw your attention to the fact that Robin Olds was a
Brigadier General in the United States Airforce.

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr'
Olds.


Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)

Make me my dinner, woman!

David Pride wrote:
General Olds is a triple ace who earned his title many time over, from his
service in World War II through Vietnam.

You, on the other hand, are a petty little twit who cannot possibly conceive
of what it is to serve one's country and lead a meaningful life. Otherwise,
you would not try to degrade those who are obviously better than you.


"shiver" wrote in message
...
Beverly Carmichael wrote:
It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr'
Olds.
Well Bev.... We have all met people like that.

Pompous people who even when retired insist that every one from
children to their parents address them by their title.

Why I'll bet a plugged nickle that on a saturday night down at the
lodge you insist that everyone call you Colonel instead of just plain
old Bev. And I'll bet the more beers you have in your belly the more
you insists on being called Colonel.


Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)


What's "degrading" about mocking the pompous? If you'd read the message
the man is mocking the "Colonel", not the the subject of the title.

--
Moving things in still pictures!

Not if your a civilian.. Many such as myself prefer to use the title out of
courtesy, however it is not required and some sticklers for protocol and
etiquette would even argue against civilians using titles outside of formal
circles. When was the last time a Major in the American Army ever insisted
upon still being referred to as Major in his retirement??? Other members of
the military may call him by his title at formal events but rarely of ever
at civilian events. Besides I seriously doubt that a man such as Robin Olds
would take offence at your perceived slight.

But Ms. Beverly Carmichael, if you insist upon being formal in a
civilian multinational newsgroup (many of whom come from nations with
similar but different protocols), I don't mind at all.

Andrew





"Beverly Carmichael" wrote in message
. 190.155...
I should like to draw your attention to the fact that Robin Olds was a
Brigadier General in the United States Airforce.

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not 'Mr'
Olds.


Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)

David Pride wrote:

You, on the other hand, are a petty little twit who cannot possibly conceive
of what it is to serve one's country and lead a meaningful life.

Your personal comments about me have nothing to do with the issue at
hand.

Many of us have met people under social settings where some priggish
asshole demands the respect due them by insisting that they be refered
to as Doctor, or Colonel, or even Brigadier General.

Today some (retired) Colonel came into this group to not only tell us
what was the appropriate salutation for this man, but to make sure we
all knew that they themselves were a Colonel (retired) in the
US Air Force.

Who the **** cares.

TO THE GROUP - CORRECT ME ( AS USUAL ) IF I AM WRONG.

I don't believe that anybody in this group spoke about
Mr. Olds recent passing with disrespect when various individuals have
made positive comments about him, his career, with posted pictures as
well.

So why today is it necessary for some (retired) Colonel to tell the
adults in this group that some dead General should not be refered to
as Mr.

Are we talking ridiculous here, or just plain stupid.

I'll stand by my bet.

I bet one plugged nickel that Berverly prefers to be called Colonel in
public especially places like the lodge or legion when there's beer
in the belly and war tales on the table.

TO THE GROUP.....

I'm sure that we are all old enough, and mature enough, to figure out
for ourselves what the proper way would be to address this person if
we had ever met him.

Beverly Carmichael writes:

I should like to draw your attention to the fact that Robin Olds
was a Brigadier General in the United States Airforce.

It is appropriate to refer to him as Brigadier General Olds. Not
'Mr' Olds.


Colonel Beverly Carmichael
US Airforce (Retired)


Yeah, and "Air Force" is two words. I'd think that someone who'd
served in that service long enough to have retired from it would
know that.



Geoff

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