FA Ebay: EVANS VOLKSPLANE VP1 "A REAL BEAUTY"

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Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front spar and
the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder what
else was skipped.

"JR" wrote in message
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Hello-Why not ask me the seller? Duh

"Harry O" wrote in message
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Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front spar and
the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder what
else was skipped.

"JR" wrote in message
...


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Actually, I wouldn't touch any airplane that left out structural parts. I
was pointing it out for those who might not be as familiar with the
airplane. But, since you are here, why were the jury struts (which keep the
wing struts from buckling under compression load) left off? This is
particularly important with the VP-1 since the wing struts are almost always
under compression.

"JR" wrote in message
om...
Hello-Why not ask me the seller? Duh

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front spar
and
the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder what
else was skipped.

"JR" wrote in message
...



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Listen up Mr. HARRY O

Your remark to make the aircraft sound unsafe was a fruitless attempt to
keep the plane from selling.

If you would had read the eBay listing it states I would prefer someone who
is familiar with the VP1 and plans to make corrections if desired on such
things. The jury struts can be easily installed by anyone who can drill two
holes.

Furthermore if you look at the pictures of the VP1
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/volksplane/lst
you would notice more than half of the planes don't have them.

Lastly, over the hundreds of hours documented in the plane's log book I
would say its safe to fly as is.
And to be exact The drawing for the jury struts is on page 48a and is dated
9-7-71 so plans prior to that DID NOT USE THEM.

The ad states this is a homebuilt and buyer should be aware.

If you wouldn't touch it,then move on and quit publicly bad mouthing my
airplane and quit trying to get others to jump on the bandwagon with you,
your not that convincing.

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Actually, I wouldn't touch any airplane that left out structural parts. I
was pointing it out for those who might not be as familiar with the
airplane. But, since you are here, why were the jury struts (which keep
the
wing struts from buckling under compression load) left off? This is
particularly important with the VP-1 since the wing struts are almost
always
under compression.

"JR" wrote in message
om...
Hello-Why not ask me the seller? Duh

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front spar
and
the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder
what
else was skipped.

"JR" wrote in message
...




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It was a legitimate 'buyer beware' question...


JR wrote:

Listen up Mr. HARRY O

Your remark to make the aircraft sound unsafe was a fruitless attempt to
keep the plane from selling.

If you would had read the eBay listing it states I would prefer someone who
is familiar with the VP1 and plans to make corrections if desired on such
things. The jury struts can be easily installed by anyone who can drill two
holes.

Furthermore if you look at the pictures of the VP1
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/volksplane/lst
you would notice more than half of the planes don't have them.

Lastly, over the hundreds of hours documented in the plane's log book I
would say its safe to fly as is.
And to be exact The drawing for the jury struts is on page 48a and is dated
9-7-71 so plans prior to that DID NOT USE THEM.

The ad states this is a homebuilt and buyer should be aware.

If you wouldn't touch it,then move on and quit publicly bad mouthing my
airplane and quit trying to get others to jump on the bandwagon with you,
your not that convincing.

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Actually, I wouldn't touch any airplane that left out structural parts. I
was pointing it out for those who might not be as familiar with the
airplane. But, since you are here, why were the jury struts (which keep
the
wing struts from buckling under compression load) left off? This is
particularly important with the VP-1 since the wing struts are almost
always
under compression.

"JR" wrote in message
om...
Hello-Why not ask me the seller? Duh

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front spar
and
the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder
what
else was skipped.

"JR" wrote in message
...




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Sorry that you object answering legitimate questions. JR. Perhaps you
should not post if you are unwilling to answer anything.

I do know that the VP-1 jury struts were added in 1971 (page 48a), 5 years
after the prototype was built. It was handled as close to an AD as the
homebuilt community has. Mr. Evans sent out the new drawing by registered
letter to everyone who bought plans to the VP-1 and said that it had to be
incorporated in all new planes in addition to the suggestion that it be
retrofitted to the relatively few completed planes that were flying at that
time.

You have every right to build whatever you like in whatever manner you like.
Being a single place plane, you only endanger yourself. However, it is
irresponsible to hide this kind of information, if you know it -- and from
your post, you obviously do. The vague, generic disclaimer on the webpage
won't protect you if you knew this and did not specifically call attention
to it.


JR wrote:

Listen up Mr. HARRY O

Your remark to make the aircraft sound unsafe was a fruitless attempt to
keep the plane from selling.

If you would had read the eBay listing it states I would prefer someone
who
is familiar with the VP1 and plans to make corrections if desired on
such
things. The jury struts can be easily installed by anyone who can drill
two
holes.

If you wouldn't touch it,then move on and quit publicly bad mouthing my
airplane and quit trying to get others to jump on the bandwagon with
you,
your not that convincing.

Listen up Mr. HARRY O

I think we all heard what you had to say. And what you failed to say, too.

-R.S.Hoover

I wpould not buy anything from someone with feedback as low as the sellers.
Les

On 10-Jun-2004, "JR" wrote:

Listen up Mr. HARRY O

Your remark to make the aircraft sound unsafe was a fruitless attempt to
keep the plane from selling.

If you would had read the eBay listing it states I would prefer someone
who
is familiar with the VP1 and plans to make corrections if desired on such
things. The jury struts can be easily installed by anyone who can drill
two
holes.

Furthermore if you look at the pictures of the VP1
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/volksplane/lst
you would notice more than half of the planes don't have them.

Lastly, over the hundreds of hours documented in the plane's log book I
would say its safe to fly as is.
And to be exact The drawing for the jury struts is on page 48a and is
dated
9-7-71 so plans prior to that DID NOT USE THEM.

The ad states this is a homebuilt and buyer should be aware.

If you wouldn't touch it,then move on and quit publicly bad mouthing my
airplane and quit trying to get others to jump on the bandwagon with you,
your not that convincing.

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Actually, I wouldn't touch any airplane that left out structural parts.
I
was pointing it out for those who might not be as familiar with the
airplane. But, since you are here, why were the jury struts (which keep
the
wing struts from buckling under compression load) left off? This is
particularly important with the VP-1 since the wing struts are almost
always
under compression.

"JR" wrote in message
om...
Hello-Why not ask me the seller? Duh

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front
spar
and
the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder
what
else was skipped.

"JR" wrote in message
...




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And I wouldn't sell to someone who can't spell...................

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I wpould not buy anything from someone with feedback as low as the
sellers.
Les

On 10-Jun-2004, "JR" wrote:

Listen up Mr. HARRY O

Your remark to make the aircraft sound unsafe was a fruitless attempt to
keep the plane from selling.

If you would had read the eBay listing it states I would prefer someone
who
is familiar with the VP1 and plans to make corrections if desired on
such
things. The jury struts can be easily installed by anyone who can drill
two
holes.

Furthermore if you look at the pictures of the VP1
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/volksplane/lst
you would notice more than half of the planes don't have them.

Lastly, over the hundreds of hours documented in the plane's log book I
would say its safe to fly as is.
And to be exact The drawing for the jury struts is on page 48a and is
dated
9-7-71 so plans prior to that DID NOT USE THEM.

The ad states this is a homebuilt and buyer should be aware.

If you wouldn't touch it,then move on and quit publicly bad mouthing my
airplane and quit trying to get others to jump on the bandwagon with
you,
your not that convincing.

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Actually, I wouldn't touch any airplane that left out structural
parts.
I
was pointing it out for those who might not be as familiar with the
airplane. But, since you are here, why were the jury struts (which
keep
the
wing struts from buckling under compression load) left off? This is
particularly important with the VP-1 since the wing struts are almost
always
under compression.

"JR" wrote in message
om...
Hello-Why not ask me the seller? Duh

"Harry O" wrote in message
...
Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front
spar
and
the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I
wonder
what
else was skipped.

"JR" wrote in message
...





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