buy or rent a 2006 182

Since it looks very much like I will be sans airplane in a week or so, I've
been kicking around options for future flying.

My general bad feeling about owning an airplane in Mobile notwithstanding,
there's still a chance I could buy another airplane if renting a 2006 Cessna
182T from the local flight school doesn't work out. So I ran a few numbers
to see how buying and renting the same model airplane would compare, based on
costs here in Mobile:


o Rent

100 hrs/yr @ $190/hr. $19,000
Renter's ins., $1M smooth $3,185 (?)

Total $22,185





o Buy slightly used '06 182T, fly 100 hrs/yr

Engine overhaul setaside @ $12.50/hr $1,300
Fuel, 13gph @ $4.85/gal $6,305
Shelter @ $180/mo. $2,160
Insurance, $1M smooth $3,185
Annual (during warranty) $750
Oil & Filters $100
Cost of money @ 6% on $310K + tax $20,460

Total $34,260




--
Dan
? at BFM

("Dan Luke" wrote)
o Buy slightly used '06 182T, fly 100 hrs/yr

Engine overhaul setaside @ $12.50/hr $1,300
Fuel, 13gph @ $4.85/gal $6,305
Shelter @ $180/mo. $2,160
Insurance, $1M smooth $3,185
Annual (during warranty) $750
Oil & Filters $100
Cost of money @ 6% on $310K + tax $20,460

Total $34,260


Not sure what your mission is, but:

http://www.ionaircraft.com/
Have considered the ION? g

I just got a call from Steve, he'd like some help this afternoon. Taxi
testing - with canopy on this time, etc.

Here's some FunFacts:
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1. 99 inch canopy ..... The view will be unmatched!

2. Jabiru 3300 .......... 1/3 the fuel burn of the 182 :-)

3. Airspeed(?) .......... Flight tests later this spring

4. Cockpit noise ...... In theory (until flight tests can verify this) we
think it will be relatively quite.

5. Pricing (?) ............. Not sure if that's a pre-OSH or a post-OSH
decision?

6. Removable wings!!

7. Chick magnet? Um, sure. The goal is to fly well and look cool doing it.
It's designed to be a fun AND capable plane.

8. Quick build times and AFFORDABLE!! Two bedrock principles at ION. (My
words, but also, my observations.)
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When you order one, it will arrive in your driveway as a primered fuselage
with the outside length (run) of each boom needing attaching/sanding the
joint/etc. The elevator tail section will require a similar 'sectioned
piece' to be mated to the rest of the empennage. Cables and pulleys will
have access panels - for you to get in there and do that.

The NEW 120 hp engine will come pre-tested from Jabiru.

The canopy will come from one of the leading canopy makers in the country -
to your driveway.

Same with the landing gear.

Same with the (removable) wings - like a quick build kit from Vans. :-)

51% rule?

Yes! There's still plenty to do even after all the components are delivered
to you.

On the flip side, the jigging has been done for you - in the form of a
delivered fuselage. (Have I mentioned it will be primer'd?)

Options:
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Canopy tinting
Seat choice
Avionics
You'll paint the fuselage.
Wings polished, or painted?

It's a homebuilt - it's yours do equip as you see fit. Basically, get as
fancy as you want.

I'd like us to play "customer" on ION #2, after OSH, to see how long one
will (really) take to ...assemble.

That'll be up to Steve. g


Montblack
I'm off to ION World Headquarters for the afternoon ....or as Steve calls
it, the left side of Al's hangar.

"Montblack" wrote:

Not sure what your mission is, but:

http://www.ionaircraft.com/
Have considered the ION? g


Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser.

--
Dan
? at BFM

On May 25, 7:32 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Montblack" wrote:
Not sure what your mission is, but:

http://www.ionaircraft.com/
Have considered the ION? g

Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser.

--
Dan
? at BFM
Dan

If you are looking for a long range IFR plane, you might want to look
at the Diamond Star DA-40. For the price of a 2006 182 you could
definitely get anything you want in the used DA-40 market. There are
11 of them on Controller listing from $140s to $200. I rented a couple
of DA-40s and was pretty impressed. I really liked the handling and
the visibility (seemed a lot more responsive than the SR-20), and they
move pretty fast for a 180hp fixed gear plane. When it is time to sell
the warbird, I'll deifnitely give them a consideration. Having flown
both recent 182s and DA-40s, unless I needed the lifting capacity of
the 182, I'd be tempted to go with the more fun plane to fly.

http://www.controller.com/listings/f...949231BCEF393B

Eric Bartsch
1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848

wrote:

\ If you are looking for a long range IFR plane, you might want to look
at the Diamond Star DA-40. For the price of a 2006 182 you could
definitely get anything you want in the used DA-40 market.


Nice plane, but IFR range and useful load are inadequate.

--
Dan
? at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:


Nice plane, but IFR range and useful load are inadequate.


Personally, for long range crusing I would want something faster
than a 182.

("Dan Luke" wrote)
Not sure what your mission is, but:

http://www.ionaircraft.com/
Have considered the ION? g

Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser.


IFR ION - can do!

Will compete nicely with a 182 in speed and distance.

Will blow away the 182 in price and fuel economy.

AND visibility.
(Oh, IFR ......"nevermind")


Montblack
Taxi test(s) and long run-ups went well yesterday. All 6 cylinders stayed in
the green - as predicted. We held our breaths anyway, just in case g.

Montblack wrote:
("Dan Luke" wrote)
Not sure what your mission is, but:

http://www.ionaircraft.com/
Have considered the ION? g

Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser.


IFR ION - can do!

Will compete nicely with a 182 in speed and distance.

Will blow away the 182 in price and fuel economy.

It's a two-seater. Comparing it to the 182 is pointless.

Matt

("Matt Whiting" wrote)
IFR ION - can do!

Will compete nicely with a 182 in speed and distance.

Will blow away the 182 in price and fuel economy.

It's a two-seater. Comparing it to the 182 is pointless.


I met Dan at OSH, not "Hurricane" Dan and his three buddies. :-)

But yes, the 182 can haul way mo fuel to burn.., debt to purchase...


Montblack
Album: Desire (1976)
Huricane - Bob Dylan
"Here comes the story of the Hurricane"

Dan Luke wrote:
Renter's ins., $1M smooth $3,185 (?)

I only pay about $750/year with AVEMCO for $1M renters insurance.