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Initial Contact Question
I know this is an IFR forum but your opinion is appreciated.
Scenario: you are receiving VFR flight following and are handed off to another controller. You call up the new controller to make initial contact. According to a controller I overheard yesterday, this callup is incorrect: "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred." This controller told every single pilot who checked in this way that they were to state that they were VFR. "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred, VFR." Is this new? It was news to everyone who got "the lesson" from this controller. Thanks. Ethan |
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On 2008-07-20, blackboxman wrote:
This controller told every single pilot who checked in this way that they were to state that they were VFR. "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred, VFR." Is this new? It was news to everyone who got "the lesson" from this controller. Thanks. He's full of prunes. See AIM 5-3-1(b)(2)(a). -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) |
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blackboxman writes:
I know this is an IFR forum but your opinion is appreciated. Scenario: you are receiving VFR flight following and are handed off to another controller. You call up the new controller to make initial contact. According to a controller I overheard yesterday, this callup is incorrect: "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred." This controller told every single pilot who checked in this way that they were to state that they were VFR. "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred, VFR." Is this new? It was news to everyone who got "the lesson" from this controller. Thanks. If you've been handed off to him by another controller, he already knows you are VFR. If he needs you to tell him that, he isn't on top of things. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: blackboxman writes: I know this is an IFR forum but your opinion is appreciated. Scenario: you are receiving VFR flight following and are handed off to another controller. You call up the new controller to make initial contact. According to a controller I overheard yesterday, this callup is incorrect: "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred." This controller told every single pilot who checked in this way that they were to state that they were VFR. "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred, VFR." Is this new? It was news to everyone who got "the lesson" from this controller. Thanks. If you've been handed off to him by another controller, he already knows you are VFR. If he needs you to tell him that, he isn't on top of things. What a ****ing idiot. You don't fly Anthony. You don't know the system. And you don't have the slightest idea of proper radio procedure. Go stick your head back up your ass. |
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"blackboxman" wrote in message
... I know this is an IFR forum but your opinion is appreciated. Scenario: you are receiving VFR flight following and are handed off to another controller. You call up the new controller to make initial contact. According to a controller I overheard yesterday, this callup is incorrect: "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred." This controller told every single pilot who checked in this way that they were to state that they were VFR. "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred, VFR." Is this new? It was news to everyone who got "the lesson" from this controller. Thanks. There's no such requirement. The controller's data tag identifies you as VFR. I'm just speculating, but what could have happened was the data link between facilities was down so ATC was doing manual handoffs. The controller may have wanted verification of VFR flights just to cover his bases. |
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blackboxman wrote:
I know this is an IFR forum but your opinion is appreciated. Scenario: you are receiving VFR flight following and are handed off to another controller. You call up the new controller to make initial contact. According to a controller I overheard yesterday, this callup is incorrect: "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred." This controller told every single pilot who checked in this way that they were to state that they were VFR. "Name Center, Cessna 12345, five thousand five hundred, VFR." Is this new? It was news to everyone who got "the lesson" from this controller. Thanks. I've been a controller for 25 years, center and approach. He's fulla crap. |
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blackboxman wrote:
I know this is an IFR forum but your opinion is appreciated. Is this new? It was news to everyone who got "the lesson" from this controller. Thanks. It is to me. I flew both IFR and VFR on Saturday, checking in with Center (or app/dep) NxxxxZ, 5,000. The only time I change it much is if I've been assigned a heading or am climbing or descending. - Nxxxx, 5000, heading 225 - Nxxxx, 5000 climbing to 7000 I've never had complaints. |
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