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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:25:30 GMT, zatatime wrote:
In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility, which puts the kabosh on your plan for this state. And no water landings, right? Damian Delgaizo at Andover Flight Academy was planning to put floats on his Husky (amphibious, presumably). As I understood it, he would have to do the actual training across the state line in PA! all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com the blog www.danford.net |
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On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:04:44 -0900, "PJ Hunt"
wrote: So you CAN go alone or take your friends, as long as you don't charge them or receive a reward, and land in all the fields you want without prior permission from the 'commission. Of course you would want to approve it with the land owner first. There are indeed private fields in NJ. Of course they may pre-date the ordinance quoted. I landed at several such when I took Damian Delgaizo's bush-flying course. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com the blog www.danford.net |
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I flew up to Valemount in the back of a Piper Cub (J-4 or J-5, can't
rememer which). If it had a back, it must have been the J-5. Lyman |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:35:58 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote: On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:25:30 GMT, zatatime wrote: In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility, which puts the kabosh on your plan for this state. And no water landings, right? Damian Delgaizo at Andover Flight Academy was planning to put floats on his Husky (amphibious, presumably). As I understood it, he would have to do the actual training across the state line in PA! This is correct. Damian was going to do this after someone else with a Lake Amphib left the area. She had to use lakes in PA only as she could not land on any open water other than designated seaplane bases like the one on the Hudson. HTH. z (Does Damian use any places to land other than approved landing facilities for his other program? He'd know enough farmers out there that he would if he could, and it might shed some light on the original statement above.) |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:37:48 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote: There are indeed private fields in NJ. Of course they may pre-date the ordinance quoted. Private airfields / strips, or just regular farm fields? z |
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Cub Driver wrote: And no water landings, right? There used to be a private seaplane base on the Raritan river just below New Brunswick. The guy who owned the property kept a Cessna with amphibs there. He operated from the river during the summer. A few years ago, he was talking about selling the property. Someone at Kupper (probably John Price) was telling me that the license to operate aircraft there would expire unless he sold it to another seaplane owner. Even if that's gone, there are seaplane bases on the Raritan Bay at Atlantic Highlands, on the Navasink river above Rumson, on the inland waterway near Lakewood, at Toms River, and at Manahawkin. Though a few of those are miles inland, all of them are on tidal waters, and may be beyond the control of the State. There're also bases on Greenwood lake and the Delaware, but both of those are on State borders - I can't tell for sure if they're in NJ. George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 22:19:42 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote: Rich asked for a definition of "approved". That's what Gig provided. The section he quoted does prohibit commercial operations, but no claim has been made that that's the entire law in New Jersey. Perhaps "zatatime" can provide a reference to the statute that prohibits other operations? I can't provide a statute, but around 20 years ago while flying the "slot" I emergency landed my T-Craft on a Hudson River pier (in Weehawken, on the Jersey side). The emergency landing was OK as far as both the FAA and state were concerned, but I got in all sorts of trouble when I flew it out again the next day after the problem was solved. In the end the feds admittited I hadn't violated any FAR's and the state aviation people (who actually were very reasonable about it) decided not to charge me as long as I promised to never land there again. -Dana -- -- If replying by email, please make the obvious changes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Roses are red, Violets are blue, I'm wasting much too much time on the internet, and probably, so are you. |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:54:08 GMT, zatatime wrote:
There are indeed private fields in NJ. Of course they may pre-date the ordinance quoted. Private airfields / strips, or just regular farm fields? Is there a difference? All I know is that I landed on runways that weren't public-use airfields. They weren't pastures, if that's what you mean. One of them had a hangar and a windsock and a mowed strip; I believe that that was a public-use airfield in the process of going private. The others were more basic, but all were mowed and clearly visible as runways from the air, and were used regularly by their owners and their friends. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com the blog www.danford.net |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:29:44 -0500, Dana M. Hague
d(dash)m(dash)hague(at)comcast(dot)net wrote: I can't provide a statute, but around 20 years ago while flying the "slot" I emergency landed my T-Craft on a Hudson River pier (in Weehawken, on the Jersey side). The emergency landing was OK as far as both the FAA and state were concerned, but I got in all sorts of trouble when I flew it out again the next day There's a closed army air field not far from Boston. Friend of a friend landed there when he had engine trouble. He was required to dissasemble the aircraft and truck it out of there; wasn't permitted to take off. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com the blog www.danford.net |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:51:17 GMT, zatatime wrote:
(Does Damian use any places to land other than approved landing facilities for his other program? He'd know enough farmers out there that he would if he could, and it might shed some light on the original statement above.) As posted, we landed on private land. It's possible that these private runways were approved by some authority or other. One such could have been a farmer's field. The others were regularly used by their owners as runways, including a strip on a fairly steep hill. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com the blog www.danford.net |
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