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Now that a 3rd class medical is good in the states for 5 years I was
thinking I could save some trips to the Dr. However, since I fly in Canada occasionally and Mexico several times a year I'm wondering how I would know if my medical would be accepted after 5 years. I understand that info in Mexico is very slow but have we heard anything from Transport Canada? Does ICAO say anything about medicals or does it just refer back to the certificate issuing country for that type of stuff? -Robert |
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BTW: I see the following on ICAO
http://www.icao.int/icao/en/assembl/a36/wp/wp059_en.pdf but something doesn't add up. It claims that private pilots need a second class medical, which I know is not true for international flying (or maybe it is true but Canada and Mexico wave that requirement????) -Robert |
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BTW: I see the following on ICAO
http://www.icao.int/icao/en/assembl/a36/wp/wp059_en.pdf but something doesn't add up. It claims that private pilots need a second class medical, which I know is not true for international flying Might have something to do with the fact that FAA regulations != ICAO regulations. In Germany, I did need a Second Class medical for my PPL(A). ATPL/CPL: First Class PPL: Second Class |
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote: BTW: I see the following on ICAO http://www.icao.int/icao/en/assembl/a36/wp/wp059_en.pdf but something doesn't add up. It claims that private pilots need a second class medical, which I know is not true for international flying (or maybe it is true but Canada and Mexico wave that requirement????) -Robert But does that apply to US certificated pilots flying US certificated aircraft? --ron |
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On Jul 30, 3:49*am, Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary" wrote: BTW: I see the following on ICAO http://www.icao.int/icao/en/assembl/a36/wp/wp059_en.pdf but something doesn't add up. It claims that private pilots need a second class medical, which I know is not true for international flying (or maybe it is true but Canada and Mexico wave that requirement????) -Robert But does that apply to US certificated pilots flying US certificated aircraft? Who knows. I wonder if a 2nd class medical is required by ICAO but the US, Mexico, and Canada are just waving that requirement to a 3rd class. In anycase, it still leaves open the question of whether or not Canada or Mexico will allow a private pilot to fly on a 3rd class medical that is more than 3 years old (under 40). Perhaps the new FAA rule is of no use to those of us who fly in Canada and Mexico. -Robert |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
Who knows. I wonder if a 2nd class medical is required by ICAO but the US, Mexico, and Canada are just waving that requirement to a 3rd class. One thing that seem to confuse some of people who replied to this thread: the new medical certificates for the JAR countries only have a class-I and a class-II, but the new class-II is really the old class-III (same requirements); they just renamed the old class-III, that's all (I know I also have one of those); Anyway, you can fly in any ICAO country with your N-registered aircraft, your FAA issued pilot certificate and your valid FAA issued medical certificate, the locals cannot question your credentials, i.e., if it is valid for the FAA, it is valid for them, end of story. If they are not happy with it, they are free to leave the ICAO (it becomes a wee bit more complicated when you want to fly locally registered aircraft -- and some countries add insurance requirements, but that's a different issue). --Sylvain |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:05:41 -0700, Sylvain wrote:
Anyway, you can fly in any ICAO country with your N-registered aircraft, your FAA issued pilot certificate and your valid FAA issued medical certificate, the locals cannot question your credentials, i.e., if it is valid for the FAA, it is valid for them, end of story. That is what I thought. Thanks for confirming it. ...it becomes a wee bit more complicated when you want to fly locally registered aircraft -- and some countries add insurance requirements, but that's a different issue). Did that once. It is definitely more complicated, limited, and expensive! --ron |
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:05:41 -0700, Sylvain wrote: Anyway, you can fly in any ICAO country with your N-registered aircraft, your FAA issued pilot certificate and your valid FAA issued medical certificate, the locals cannot question your credentials, i.e., if it is valid for the FAA, it is valid for them, end of story. That is what I thought. Thanks for confirming it. by the way, I was assuming that your FAA certificate is a private or higher (I don't think it would work with a recreational or sport pilot certificate, the same way that some other countries have their own local licenses/ratings that are not recognized by ICAO; for instance like the UK 'IMC rating' and some national licenses which are not valid outside of the country; but then, in the case of the British things, it is spelled out in the license itself) --Sylvain |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:11:36 -0700, Sylvain wrote:
by the way, I was assuming that your FAA certificate is a private or higher (I don't think it would work with a recreational or sport pilot certificate, the same way that some other countries have their own local licenses/ratings that are not recognized by ICAO; for instance like the UK 'IMC rating' and some national licenses which are not valid outside of the country; but then, in the case of the British things, it is spelled out in the license itself) Good point. I had forgotten about those. Let me see what is in the regs, that I can find quickly ... 61.101(h) A recreational pilot certificate issued under this subpart carries the notation, “Holder does not meet ICAO requirements.” 61.315(c) You may not act as pilot in command of a light-sport aircraft: (8) Outside the United States, unless you have prior authorization from the country in which you seek to operate. Your sport pilot certificate carries the limit “Holder does not meet ICAO requirements.” So I guess the US follows suit. Best, ron -- CP, ASEL, ASES, Instrument-Airplane --ron |
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