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What's a radio stack really cost?
I'm looking at a Skymaster that is mechanically in very good shape, but
is absolutely (just barely) VFR. It has more boat anchors in it than Tracker Boats sells in a month. So..if a mid-time multi-rated, instrument pilot was going to spend money on a new radio stack, how much would he or she have to spend? I'm assuming something along the lines of the following: * GMA 340 audio panel * GMX 200/traffic MFD * Dual SL30 nav/comms * GPS 400 gps * GTX 330 transponder * MD 200 VOR/LOC/GS indicator * GI 102 VOR/LOC indicator * GDL 69 XM receiver I figure by breaking out the nav/comm function from the gps function, I can lose either and still shoot an approach. I think my single point of failure might be audio panel, but I don't know how to get around that issue. The txponder is also an spof, but so what? Same with the XM receiver. I'd like to read feedback from folks that have been-there, done-that, and have the tee-shirt. I'd also like to know how much I should expect this stack to really cost (budgetary purposes). |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
I would contact avionics shops for a quote as the cost of the install will be substantial and they may be able to get you a discount on the equipment if they do the install. I just had a audio panel (with intercom) and a second nav/com and indicator installed along with some old radios removed, an avionics master and ptt's installed for $1800 with me supplying all the equipment (+$3K used). You'd be looking at quite a bit more in labor for an IFR approved GPS installation plus the cost of the equipment. The quotes for the install were all over the place so shop around. |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
"Jim Carter" wrote: [snip] Substitute a Garmin 430 for one of these: * Dual SL30 nav/comms ....and drop this: * GPS 400 gps [snip] It will still cost you $30K+ installed; maybe as much as $40K, depending on the shop. And you still haven't even thought about an autopilot. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
Go to Eastern Avionics web site and look at their packages, both new
and reconditioned... Good folks... Honest and they will be up front with you on total cost.. denny |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
Jim Carter wrote:
I'm assuming something along the lines of the following: * GMA 340 audio panel * GMX 200/traffic MFD * Dual SL30 nav/comms * GPS 400 gps * GTX 330 transponder * MD 200 VOR/LOC/GS indicator * GI 102 VOR/LOC indicator * GDL 69 XM receiver If I was starting from scratch, I think I'd go with a GNS-480 and an SL-30. I figure by breaking out the nav/comm function from the gps function, I can lose either and still shoot an approach. The SL-30 alone is enough to get you vectors to an ILS. I think my single point of failure might be audio panel That's certainly a single point of COM failure, but it won't keep you from navigating. Of course, that's just one man's opinion, and what works for me may not make sense for you. We've got an MX-20 in one of our planes, and personally I don't get much use out of it. The graphics update is way to slow for the moving map. If they came out with a faster version, it might be more attractive. |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
Dan Luke wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote: [snip] Substitute a Garmin 430 for one of these: * Dual SL30 nav/comms ...and drop this: * GPS 400 gps [snip] It will still cost you $30K+ installed; maybe as much as $40K, depending on the shop. And you still haven't even thought about an autopilot. An autopilot is a more difficult thing than everything else in the avionics stakc. The autopilot has to be set up to match the flying properties of the airframe, -- Tauno Voipio tauno voipio (at) iki fi |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:47:55 GMT, "Jim Carter"
wrote: I'm looking at a Skymaster that is mechanically in very good shape, but is absolutely (just barely) VFR. It has more boat anchors in it than Tracker Boats sells in a month. So..if a mid-time multi-rated, instrument pilot was going to spend money on a new radio stack, how much would he or she have to spend? I'm assuming something along the lines of the following: * GMA 340 audio panel * GMX 200/traffic MFD * Dual SL30 nav/comms * GPS 400 gps * GTX 330 transponder * MD 200 VOR/LOC/GS indicator * GI 102 VOR/LOC indicator * GDL 69 XM receiver That is over $20k in avionics, you can expect 50+% of that to install. So a minimum of $30k. |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
-----Original Message----- From: 150flivver ] Posted At: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:15 PM Posted To: rec.aviation.owning Conversation: What's a radio stack really cost? Subject: What's a radio stack really cost? .... The quotes for the install were all over the place so shop around. [Jim Carter] I guess that's what I'm worried about, the shop I worked with 20 yrs ago is gone and there seems to be a wide variety of estimate bandied about on the net. I'm hoping that folks will step up with hints about what they really paid, not just MFRP numbers -- unless that includes installation. |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Luke ] Posted At: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:59 AM Posted To: rec.aviation.owning Conversation: What's a radio stack really cost? Subject: What's a radio stack really cost? "Jim Carter" wrote: [snip] Substitute a Garmin 430 for one of these: * Dual SL30 nav/comms ...and drop this: * GPS 400 gps [Jim Carter] I'm interested to understand why you'd want to go with a 430 instead of the 400. I realize the 430 is comm/nav/gps, so I was trying to isolate the comm/nav from the gps function with the 400. If I dropped the 400, would you also suggest dropping the MFD? The 430 has such a small screen that I would think traffic and weather would be a problem to display. Would you drop the MFD and the 400 and maybe go with a 530? If so, we're back to merging the comm/nav and gps together into one unit. [snip] It will still cost you $30K+ installed; maybe as much as $40K, depending on the shop. And you still haven't even thought about an autopilot. There is a functioning standard (for the 337) Cessna autopilot on board already. It is just coupled to a bunch of junk radios. Don't I have a pretty good chance of re-using that autopilot? It has pitch and roll with variable rates in each direction, along with heading and altitude preset. |
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What's a radio stack really cost?
-----Original Message----- From: Denny ] Posted At: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 1:17 PM Posted To: rec.aviation.owning Conversation: What's a radio stack really cost? Subject: What's a radio stack really cost? Go to Eastern Avionics web site and look at their packages, both new and reconditioned... Good folks... Honest and they will be up front with you on total cost.. denny [Jim Carter] Excellent - this is exactly the steering I was looking for Denny - thanks. |
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