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In article xS7ud.1785$Ae.1445@fed1read05,
"BTIZ" wrote: "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... In California they'd probably get you for not passing a SMOG test first. in California.. they get upset if you use a dry lake bed BT That may or may not be true, but if you've ever travelled California's Central Valley much, you'll surely be familiar with the various Frontage Roads besides the freeways and sundry highways blocked off temporarily for ag plane usage. I've many times watched an AgCat or similar land a few metres off I-5 on the parallel local road to top up the spray tanks (or whatever it is they do). Quite a cool sight. And quite legal. Hamish |
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:33:54 -0700, Newps wrote:
And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do. Well it's happened four times in the last 20 years that I'm aware of here in Vermont. Three were engine failures and one was a Cessna 172 that had collided with another aircraft and had lost it's windshield and had other damage. My wife drove by two of the airplanes that had landed on interstate 89 which traverses Vermont going north northwest. One guy had pulled into a rest stop area after landing. She said she did a double take as she drove by. There was the turn off, the parking area with cars in various slots, and this airplane sitting there. It was a high wing monoplane, likely a Cessna. I read that it later got whatever it was needing repaired fixed, and took off on the interstate after State Police halted traffic for it. The latest incident was an engine out on a C172 up by Barre VT. The pilot noticed the oil pressure going down and decided he'd better land in a hurry. He shut down and landed on the interstate and got help from motorists to push his airplane into a turn around. At that point my wife drove by. (interestingly, each time my wife saw the airplanes, it was because she was making a special trip up that way. Normally we do not go north from where we live very often, and my wife almost never drives up there alone unless it's for some job related reason. In both cases, she was making a single planned trip, driving solo, years apart, and encountered the downed airplanes. Both were on Interstate 89) From there, the airplane was towed by a wrecker, preceded and trailed by police cruisers with lights flashing, down the interstate to the next exit and up to the Barre/Montpelier airport. Didn't get a ticket for anything that I'm aware of. Corky Scott |
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=A7 4561.12. Regulation of aircraft on public property.
(A) No aircraft shall be operated or maintained on any public land or=20 water owned or controlled by this state, or by any political subdivision = of this state, except at such places and under such rules and=20 regulations governing and controlling the operation and maintenance of=20 aircraft as are adopted and promulgated by the department of=20 transportation in accordance with sections 119.01 to 119.13 of the=20 Revised Code. Such action and approval by the department shall not become effective=20 until it has been approved by the adoption and promulgation of=20 appropriate rules and regulations governing, controlling, and approving=20 said places and the method of operation and maintenance of aircraft, by=20 the department, division, political subdivision, agent, or agency of=20 this state having ownership or control of the places on said public land = or water which are affected by such operation or maintenance of aircraft = thereon. (B) Whoever violates this section shall be fined not more than five=20 hundred dollars, imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both. HISTORY: GC =A7 6310-48a; 122 v 501; Bureau of Code Revision, 10-1-53; 12= 7=20 v 349 (Eff 9-17-57); 135 v S 96. Eff 8-22-73; 149 v S 123, =A7 1, eff. 1-= 1-04. The effective date is set by section 4 of S.B. 123. See provisions, =A7 5 of S.B. 123 (149 v - ), following RC =A7 4501.01. Effect of Amendments S.B. 123, Acts 2002, effective January 1, 2004, redesignated former=20 introductory paragraph as (A), and substituted "of this state" for=20 "thereof"; and added (B). Ohio Adminstrative Code Aircraft operation on public land or water. OAC ch. 5501:1-3. |
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"Newps" wrote in message ... Matthew Walster wrote: In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency, and if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or better result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same... Land of the free and home of the brave...especially if you land on a country road at night. Buddy of mine did that in his Cessna 180, while doing his 180 degree turn on the road he wiped out a mail box next to the highway. Needed quite a bit of duct tape to get back home. Story this AM on NPR pilot tries to land on highway after lose of engine. Lands instead on top of Tractor Trailer. Obviously stays up there for some period of time then the plane falls off. The driver didn't know it happened until later. Gig |
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to them. AOPA was not much help when asked the same question! Response: The landing of an airplane on anything other than a public use airport is at the discretion of the owner of the land. Public roads are state owned. You would have to check with the individual state highway commissions to states you plan on traveling to. Unfortunately we do not have a list of states that have provisions in their law for such activity. If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 1-800-872-2672. Best Regards, Nathan Rohrbaugh Aviation Technical Specialist Aviation Services Department Fax 301-695-2375 www.aopa.org |
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Ok, Since no place has a list I think I will be making some phone calls to
state offices and make a list. "NW_PILOT" wrote in message news Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list of State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads? The only one i have found is for Montana: The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3) Lawfulness of Flight and Landings: Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful if proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of the roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may not incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection. |
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Never happened. See http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. Hmmm, not USA then, but he http://www.mindef.gov.sg/cyberpionee...es_dec02_1.htm |
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First you need to answer this question.
"Who has juristiction over the land or water being landed upon?" It is NOT the FAA, because the FAA only has jurisdiction over airports and in the air. Ask yourself this, "who would give me a ticket if I was in a car on this road and did something illegal"? It could be a state police, county police, city police. Now then, there are satutes, and there is COMMON law (which is law based on what is commonly done, court cases etc). There are federal statutes, state statutes and city statutes (and probably some others). For private land, you could be considered to be trespassing, if you don't have permission. There is Federal land, State Land, County Land, City Land, Indian Land, private land and probably some others. There are 50 states, probaby 2500 counties, hundreds of thousands of towns and cities. All with different laws, some with no laws at all regarding aircraft landing. So there are lots of different rules, depending on where you do it. LOTS! |
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First you need to answer this question.
"Who has juristiction over the land or water being landed upon?" It is NOT the FAA, because the FAA only has jurisdiction over airports and in the air. Ask yourself this, "who would give me a ticket if I was in a car on this road and did something illegal"? It could be a state police, county police, city police. Now then, there are satutes, and there is COMMON law (which is law based on what is commonly done, court cases etc). There are federal statutes, state statutes and city statutes (and probably some others). For private land, you could be considered to be trespassing, if you don't have permission. There is Federal land, State Land, County Land, City Land, Indian Land, private land and probably some others. There are 50 states, probaby 2500 counties, hundreds of thousands of towns and cities. All with different laws, some with no laws at all regarding aircraft landing. So there are lots of different rules, depending on where you do it. LOTS! |
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john smith opined
Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati, between the 41 and 44 mile markers. Two parallel 15,000 runways. They are repaving this stretch. The old pavement was 12 inches of concrete with 6 inches of asphalt overlay. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the Springfield ANG and Rickenbacker ANG bases are within 30-40 miles of this site. A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT, but can't remember which law mandated this. The interstates were in part to be emergency Air Force runways, just in case the local Air Force Base was nuked. And every(most?) overpass was to have a fall out shelter, with food, built into it. -ash Cthulhu in 2005! Why wait for nature? |
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