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Old April 21st 20, 09:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Tinted glider canopies as sold on new gliders are nothing to do with increasing UV protection. They are intended to reduce IR transmission into the cockpit and make it a little cooler. That is why they are at the blue end of the colour spectrum i.e. the opposite of "blue blocker" brown sun spec lenses. Most heating in the cockpit on the ground comes from the greenhouse effect and that is only slightly reduced by tinting but my own subjective impression is that direct sun on to my person feels a little less hot through a blue tinted canopy.
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Old April 21st 20, 10:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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direct sun on to my person feels a little less hot...


It would actually feel a lot less hot if those areas of your person were covered with sun protective material.
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Old April 21st 20, 11:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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You miss my point gbfwi. I said nothing about the UV protection characteristics of canopy materials. I was stating that the reason tinted canopies are sold on gliders is not to do with additional UV filtering. For that I always wear full length UV protecting clothing, hat and sun shade gloves + factor 50 when gliding.
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Old April 21st 20, 10:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:50:20 AM UTC-4, 2G wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:26:27 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 5:49:26 AM UTC+2, Paul wrote:
Question: Is it possible to tint a canopy like a car, for example, using automotive window tinting material? I know some canopies are tinted a bluish color, but what about a dark black tint?

Thanks,


It's poorly advertised but Mecaplex offers an IR-blocking tint which I've ordered after some hassle.
As a fraction of light blocked:
Colour / Visible / IR
Standard grey / 76% / 74%
IR blocking grey / 77% / 47%
Blue / 78% / 78%

Sunlight is about 45/55 visible/IR(?), so my napkin math suggests assuming 1000W/sqm:

(450 * 0.76) + (550 * 0.74) = 749W
(450 * 0.77) + (550 * 0.47) = 605W
- ~25% cooler than typical tinted for no loss in visibility.

I don't know what fraction of either is blocked by an untinted canopy in comparison? Approximately 0% or more?


You don't need an IR blocking tint as acrylic blocks UV all by itself:

Some UV, not all. Acrylic blocks UV-B, so you don't get a sunburn. But it still lets significant UV-A through, which can cause deeper skin damage. Best to cover exposed areas with opaque material.

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Old April 22nd 20, 06:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:52:09 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:50:20 AM UTC-4, 2G wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:26:27 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 5:49:26 AM UTC+2, Paul wrote:
Question: Is it possible to tint a canopy like a car, for example, using automotive window tinting material? I know some canopies are tinted a bluish color, but what about a dark black tint?

Thanks,

It's poorly advertised but Mecaplex offers an IR-blocking tint which I've ordered after some hassle.
As a fraction of light blocked:
Colour / Visible / IR
Standard grey / 76% / 74%
IR blocking grey / 77% / 47%
Blue / 78% / 78%

Sunlight is about 45/55 visible/IR(?), so my napkin math suggests assuming 1000W/sqm:

(450 * 0.76) + (550 * 0.74) = 749W
(450 * 0.77) + (550 * 0.47) = 605W
- ~25% cooler than typical tinted for no loss in visibility.

I don't know what fraction of either is blocked by an untinted canopy in comparison? Approximately 0% or more?


You don't need an IR blocking tint as acrylic blocks UV all by itself:

Some UV, not all. Acrylic blocks UV-B, so you don't get a sunburn. But it still lets significant UV-A through, which can cause deeper skin damage. Best to cover exposed areas with opaque material.


UV-A is defined as wavelengths between 315 and 400nm. As can be seen from the transmission plots I provided, acrylic falls off steeply at 400nm. This blocks almost, but not, all UV-A.

Tom
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Old April 20th 20, 06:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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My thoughts....FWIW.,,.plastic canopy....tinting.....most solutions are for glass surface.,..we're dealing with plastic....
For the cost of a new canopy (parts and labor plus downtime and shipping both ways)......buy tinted or deal with it....
If dumping a ship soon...."buyer beware"....
Otherwise....(guessing on my part)...,,run away fast....
My $0.02..,,
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Old April 20th 20, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:49:26 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
Question: Is it possible to tint a canopy like a car, for example, using automotive window tinting material? I know some canopies are tinted a bluish color, but what about a dark black tint?

Thanks,


Than you all for your answers, that clears my question. Much appreciated!
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Old April 22nd 20, 03:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:49:26 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Question: Is it possible to tint a canopy like a car, for example, using automotive window tinting material? I know some canopies are tinted a bluish color, but what about a dark black tint?

Thanks,


For what it is worth, I flew an SHK with a Roy Poquette supplied dark tinted canopy for several years and didn't know sun heating under a canopy until I switched to a clear canopy in a standard cirrus. dramatic difference!
Scott
 




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