Night Currency

That is a point I had overlooked early on. I was only logging my night
landings, since most of those flights commenced earlier during daylight.

A question I still wonder is, If I only have night landings logged, would
I still be current to land at night, but just not to take off? or do I need
both night Takeoffs and night landings logged even if I only want to land
at night (with pax). Again, most of my flights which end in a night
landing, are just day-long trips where I get home late. It is a real pain to
make special trip to airport after dark just to practice night takeoffs.

What are your collective thoughts on this subject?


"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs
by FAR 61.57(b)


And an often overlooked point, takeoffs are included. You can have a
logbook
full of daytime takeoffs and night landings, and they don't help a bit
without
night takeoffs.

Jose

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Jonathan wrote:
That is a point I had overlooked early on. I was only logging my night
landings, since most of those flights commenced earlier during daylight.

A question I still wonder is, If I only have night landings logged,
would
I still be current to land at night, but just not to take off? or do I
need
both night Takeoffs and night landings logged even if I only want to land
at night (with pax). Again, most of my flights which end in a night
landing, are just day-long trips where I get home late. It is a real pain
to
make special trip to airport after dark just to practice night takeoffs.

What are your collective thoughts on this subject?

You need both night takeoffs and night landings to qualify - the FARs spell
this out very clearly. 61.57 says (in part):

"(b) Night takeoff and landing experience. (1) Except as provided in
paragraph (e) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of an
aircraft carrying passengers during the period beginning 1 hour after sunset
and ending 1 hour before sunrise, unless within the preceding 90 days that
person has made at least three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop
during the period beginning 1 hour after sunset and ending 1 hour before
sunrise"

Hilton

"Jonathan" wrote in message
news:TB2jb.563532$cF.240565@rwcrnsc53...
That is a point I had overlooked early on. I was only logging my night
landings, since most of those flights commenced earlier during daylight.

A question I still wonder is, If I only have night landings logged,
would
I still be current to land at night, but just not to take off? or do I
need
both night Takeoffs and night landings logged even if I only want to land
at night (with pax). Again, most of my flights which end in a night
landing, are just day-long trips where I get home late. It is a real pain
to
make special trip to airport after dark just to practice night takeoffs.

What are your collective thoughts on this subject?

Look at FAR 61.57b. Even if you take off before nightfall and stay aloft
until after dawn, you still can't have a passenger on board unless you meet
the night-currency condition, which requires takeoffs as well as landings.

--Gary



"Teacherjh" wrote in message
...

Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs
by FAR 61.57(b)


And an often overlooked point, takeoffs are included. You can have a
logbook
full of daytime takeoffs and night landings, and they don't help a bit
without
night takeoffs.

Jose

--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

"Stephen N Mills" wrote:
Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs
by FAR 61.57(b)

Actually, to pick a tiny nit, the landings must be "to a full stop," for
which I have never found a definition in the FAR's. I do know that "full
stop" and "stop and go" mean different things to ATC.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" c172rgATbellsouthDOTnet wrote in message ...
"Stephen N Mills" wrote:
Actually, for night currency, they must be *Stop & Go*s, not just T&Gs
by FAR 61.57(b)

Actually, to pick a tiny nit, the landings must be "to a full stop," for
which I have never found a definition in the FAR's. I do know that "full
stop" and "stop and go" mean different things to ATC.

Just to make it fun, "full stop" means something different to approach
then to tower. "full stop" to tower means you're going to pull off the
runway. "full stop" to approach means you don't have the intension to
go missed. During training we often tell approach "full stop" and then
tower "touch n go".

In article ,
Robert M. Gary wrote:
go missed. During training we often tell approach "full stop" and then
tower "touch n go".

Or tell approach you're going missed and do a touch n go.

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/

Doug Campbell wrote:
Practicing for my IFR, with a safety pilot (required crewmember)
I am not current at night. Can we fly this way, and achieve
currency? Not a passenger, since he is required crew.

Not an issue for my partner, we both need to get current
and trust each other's ability. Is it legal?

Acting and logging PIC are two completely different things. Having said
that... If you are not night current, your friend can ACT as PIC, you log
the landings, he logs nothing (assuming no hood work involved). The
complexity you add with the hoodwork is not required. The person acting as
PIC needs to have a current medical, have any required endorsements, be
current in whatever is required (in this case 'night'). The person logging
the time only needs to be rated in the aircraft, he/she does not need a
current medical, endorsements, or be current at 'night' (in this case).

I have purposely ignored FBO, insurance, etc requirements - make sure you
are still insured with the (ACTING) PIC in the right seat, unless you want
to risk it financially.

Hilton