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Old October 16th 06, 02:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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anybody know where to get a dvd or video tape of "Flyboys"??
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Old October 16th 06, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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jerry wass wrote:
anybody know where to get a dvd or video tape of "Flyboys"??


Im sure the distributor will have some out in 6 months or so. Anything
else would be bootleg.
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Old October 16th 06, 04:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Dave S wrote:
jerry wass wrote:

anybody know where to get a dvd or video tape of "Flyboys"??



Im sure the distributor will have some out in 6 months or so. Anything
else would be bootleg.


Thanks--I live in a little town-didn't know they took so long
-mostly watch satellite haven't bought a
pre-recorded dvd or tape in years.
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Old October 16th 06, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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anybody know where to get a dvd or video tape of "Flyboys"??


Netflix says unknown so a firm date hasn't been set yet.


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Old October 16th 06, 06:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
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anybody know where to get a dvd or video tape of "Flyboys"??


Netflix says unknown so a firm date hasn't been set yet.


It's been out 3 weeks and made $12 million. It cost $60 million to
make. I hate to say it because I like Tony Bill both personally and as
a director (producer, actor, etc) but it's a disaster.

So it will be on DVD soon, probably before Christmas.

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Old October 18th 06, 12:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Richard Riley wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"jerry wass" wrote in message
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anybody know where to get a dvd or video tape of "Flyboys"??

Netflix says unknown so a firm date hasn't been set yet.


It's been out 3 weeks and made $12 million. It cost $60 million to
make. I hate to say it because I like Tony Bill both personally and as
a director (producer, actor, etc) but it's a disaster.



Yeah apparently the entire German airforce operated nothing but Fokker
Triplanes.

Even in the trailer the special effects looked like crap.
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Old October 18th 06, 01:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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J.Kahn wrote:
Yeah apparently the entire German airforce operated nothing but Fokker
Triplanes.

Even in the trailer the special effects looked like crap.


Flyboys is a mixed bag. Which just can't be good regardless of the
type of film. If you know anything about the history of WW1 or the
Lafayette Escadrille then it is pretty jarring to see how casually they
treat the origins of the squadron. I found the juxtaposition of
aircraft from different time frames within the war pretty
disconcerting. It is one thing to willingly suspend disbelief but when
that suspension is assaulted right away with glaring errors it is hard
to take the rest of the film seriously.

That is too bad because there really are some poignant moments and some
good acting, but it just is not consistent. Most of the sets were
pretty evocative of the war time era at least from what I have seen in
pictures and read in books. But then they do something really stupid.
Just one spoiler, in one scene a flyer's hand is trapped under the wing
of his crashed aircraft. The hero does something so amazing to free
him that I really couldn't believe the director thought it would work.
I would bet that you could have smashed up the wing of that Nieuport
and freed the flyer with no problem.

There are some shots of Gotha's and Handley Page O/400s and a Zeppelin
that looked pretty good at first glance and certainly point the way to
a future for seeing long lost aircraft in CGI.

I was disappointed overall, though my ten and 21 year old sons thought
it was good. I saw some of Saving Private Ryan again recently and
though I think that film is flawed in its plot execution it is superb
in its "look" and "feel". Flyboys doesn't measure up.

John Dupre'

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Old October 18th 06, 11:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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John wrote:
J.Kahn wrote:
Yeah apparently the entire German airforce operated nothing but Fokker
Triplanes.

Even in the trailer the special effects looked like crap.


Flyboys is a mixed bag. Which just can't be good regardless of the
type of film. If you know anything about the history of WW1 or the
Lafayette Escadrille then it is pretty jarring to see how casually they
treat the origins of the squadron. I found the juxtaposition of
aircraft from different time frames within the war pretty
disconcerting. It is one thing to willingly suspend disbelief but when
that suspension is assaulted right away with glaring errors it is hard
to take the rest of the film seriously.

That is too bad because there really are some poignant moments and some
good acting, but it just is not consistent. Most of the sets were
pretty evocative of the war time era at least from what I have seen in
pictures and read in books. But then they do something really stupid.
Just one spoiler, in one scene a flyer's hand is trapped under the wing
of his crashed aircraft. The hero does something so amazing to free
him that I really couldn't believe the director thought it would work.
I would bet that you could have smashed up the wing of that Nieuport
and freed the flyer with no problem.

There are some shots of Gotha's and Handley Page O/400s and a Zeppelin
that looked pretty good at first glance and certainly point the way to
a future for seeing long lost aircraft in CGI.

I was disappointed overall, though my ten and 21 year old sons thought
it was good. I saw some of Saving Private Ryan again recently and
though I think that film is flawed in its plot execution it is superb
in its "look" and "feel". Flyboys doesn't measure up.

John Dupre'

I agree about SPR. The first time I saw it I thought the plot was fine
generally but after another viewing or two it started to seem sillier
and sillier although it is still a great film experience. Thin Red
Line is funny the opposite way... it seems better after several viewings.

On a business trip to France I got a chance to take my rental car from
Brest back to Paris instead of flying back, and I raced straight to
Normandy and spent hours driving the hedgerow roads behind Omaha and
Utah beach on a beautiful summer afternoon. Stayed overnight at a
little hotel in Carantan. In the countryside it all looks exactly like
it did in '44 because no development is allowed in the area outside of
villages. I stopped several times and went for walks along those trench
like hedgerow roads thinking about 1944.

The next morning I went to the military cemetery by Omaha that is in the
opening scene of SPR and spent an hour or two walking the rows of
crosses and stars and that pathway that goes along the crest of the
bluff. It was the most immaculately manicured and peaceful place on
earth. After about 40 minutes of this I started to get overwhelmed
emotionally and had to clear out and headed up to Courseille Sur Mer to
see the Canadian beach and drive to Caen.

John
 




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