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ArtKramr wrote: Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II..... From: (ANDREW ROBERT BREEN) Date: 2/27/04 1:53 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: In article , ArtKramr wrote: If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something? Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not? Any regrets at having missed it? Anyone? That said, my parents' generation were faced with either doing something about a truely horrible threat (though without knowing - then - quite how horrible it was) or having to live under it. If I'd been faced with the same situation I can only hope I might have done as well. I'm not sure I would, but then maybe neither were they. I'm very glad to have been spared that. Very thoughtful post Andy. Many I have heard from over the last 60 years expressed pretty much what you did. It often just starts with they wished they had been there with us. It was a war worth fighting and their lives would have Thanks for the feedbacck, Art. It's something I've been thinking about more than usual recently - my father having been very seriously ill over the last week (he's almost completely recovered now - like many of his generation he's a tough guy, in spite of having had a tough time). Hope you won't mind me making a suggestion - I've been following the accounts you've been putting up on your web-space (fascinating stuff): Have you considered offering them to one of the archives for long-term preservation (not that I'm not hoping you'll be with us for many years to come!). The 2nd World War Experience Centre seems to be a rather good one, and they are on the look-out for a larger US presence there. http://www.war-experience.org/ I had some dealings with them when they put some stuff of my father's up on the site - editing it into shape and so on - and they seemed very good. It's important that the next generation knows just what your generation went through - and what they did for us. -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....
From: (ANDREW ROBERT BREEN) Date: 2/27/04 7:05 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: In article , ArtKramr wrote: Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II..... From: (ANDREW ROBERT BREEN) Date: 2/27/04 1:53 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: In article , ArtKramr wrote: If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something? Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not? Any regrets at having missed it? Anyone? That said, my parents' generation were faced with either doing something about a truely horrible threat (though without knowing - then - quite how horrible it was) or having to live under it. If I'd been faced with the same situation I can only hope I might have done as well. I'm not sure I would, but then maybe neither were they. I'm very glad to have been spared that. Very thoughtful post Andy. Many I have heard from over the last 60 years expressed pretty much what you did. It often just starts with they wished they had been there with us. It was a war worth fighting and their lives would have Thanks for the feedbacck, Art. It's something I've been thinking about more than usual recently - my father having been very seriously ill over the last week (he's almost completely recovered now - like many of his generation he's a tough guy, in spite of having had a tough time). Hope you won't mind me making a suggestion - I've been following the accounts you've been putting up on your web-space (fascinating stuff): Have you considered offering them to one of the archives for long-term preservation (not that I'm not hoping you'll be with us for many years to come!). The 2nd World War Experience Centre seems to be a rather good one, and they are on the look-out for a larger US presence there. http://www.war-experience.org/ I had some dealings with them when they put some stuff of my father's up on the site - editing it into shape and so on - and they seemed very good. It's important that the next generation knows just what your generation went through - and what they did for us. -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) I have been thinking about that but I am not quite finished with it yet. More to come. But any archive can simply download it can't they? BTW, Regards to Mrs. Prothero. (:-)) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" wrote in message ... snip It's important that the next generation knows just what your generation went through - and what they did for us. And you think the "historical" input of a clown who cannot acknowledge that the entire national Guard was mobilized and a goodly chunk of them already were in the fight when he graduated from high school, and goes on to lable those same personnel as "shirkers", has any real value? A guy who makes the astonishing claim (repeatedly) that his outfit *never* missed its designated target, despite the clear evidence that such results would have been impossible during that time period? One who disparages the efforts of those in his generation who served honorably and went where they were told, and did what they were instructed to do, as being somehow of less value than his own efforts? Sorry, but all of that adds up to a rather biased and untrustworthy source IMO. Brooks -- Andy Breen ~ |
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message ... I was born in 1963. Kind of assinine to feel that I "missed" something that was over before I was borne. Then how do you explain the fascination with WWII aircraft and flight sims? Most people involved with those activities are trying to relive a "golden age" of some sort. WW2 was the last "pure" war, with good and evil facing off in a fight to the finish (yes, the Soviets weren't "good", but you get the idea). Today's world is largely unsatisfactory to some people, and instead of working to make it better, they try to relive the past. |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... As Colin Powell said: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed managed to wangle slots in the Army Reserve and National Guard units... Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." You are such an insulting old ****, Art. Without the Guard, you would be dead. |
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ubject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....
From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/27/04 7:21 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... As Colin Powell said: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed managed to wangle slots in the Army Reserve and National Guard units... Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." You are such an insulting old ****, Art. Without the Guard, you would be dead. Colin Powell said it, Not me. I guess he is the insulting old ****. Right? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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ArtKramr wrote: Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II..... From: (ANDREW ROBERT BREEN) Hope you won't mind me making a suggestion - I've been following the accounts you've been putting up on your web-space (fascinating stuff): Have you considered offering them to one of the archives for long-term preservation (not that I'm not hoping you'll be with us for many years to I have been thinking about that but I am not quite finished with it yet. More to come. But any archive can simply download it can't they? BTW, Regards to I think this lot only do it by permission - might be worth dropping them an e-mail when you're satisfied with it though. Just a suggestion. Mrs. Prothero. (:-)) -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... ubject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II..... From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/27/04 7:21 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... As Colin Powell said: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed managed to wangle slots in the Army Reserve and National Guard units... Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." You are such an insulting old ****, Art. Without the Guard, you would be dead. Colin Powell said it, Not me. I guess he is the insulting old ****. Right? Powell was refering to JFK's war and LBJ's failure to call up the National Guard. Without the Guard, you would be dead, Art. |
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Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....
From: (ANDREW ROBERT BREEN) Date: 2/27/04 7:36 AM Pacific Standard Time I think this lot only do it by permission - might be worth dropping them an e-mail when you're satisfied with it though. Just a suggestion. Mrs. Prothero. (:-)) I contacted them as soon as I got your post. I'll let you know when I get a reply. Thanks for your help and interest.. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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