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New theory of flight released Sept 2004



 
 
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Old October 5th 04, 03:49 PM
Mark Oliver
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Default New theory of flight released Sept 2004

The current theory of flight is based upon the Bernoulli's Principal, the
pressure of a fluid (liquid or gas) decreases at points where the speed of
the fluid increases. The airfoil is designed to increase the velocity of
the airflow above its surface, thereby decreasing pressure above the
airfoil. Simultaneously, the impact of the air on the lower surface of the
airfoil increases the pressure below. This combination of pressure decrease
above and increase below produces lift. Pressure is reduced due to the
smaller space the air has above the wing than below. Air cannot go through
the wing, so it must push around it. The surface air molecules push between
the wing and outer layers of air. Due to the bump of the airfoil, the space
is smaller and the molecules must go faster.

THIS HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM - specifically inverted flight. The current theory
of flight utilizing the Bernoulli's Principal is only applicable to normal
level flight. However, we know and observe that inverted flight is
possible. Thus, the Bernoulli's Principal is no longer applicable to
inverted flight, so there must be another theory that supports flight, be it
level or inverted.

The new theory of flight is based upon the new theory of Gravitational
Vector Force (released Sept 2004). Utilizing Newton's laws that equal
opposite force is generated at right angles, be it applied at once or
successively, and if the angle is oblique (slanted) a new force is
generated. Then inverted flight is possible as force is always generated at
right angles, and this is towards the ground in all cases. The net
difference between the initial velocity and resistance force generated at
the leading edge at right angles (downwards) creates a new force called
Gravitational Vector Force, and it travels in the opposite direction
(upwards) to maintain balance, impacting the bottom of the wing. The wing
becomes less efficient in inverted flight due to the design of the airfoil,
however it is still possible.

This new theory of flight also supports the following;
1) the new force manifests at a faster rate than initial velocity, hence the
wing becomes more efficient at faster speeds
2) As you extend spoilers and flaps at the leading and trailing edges, the
bottom of the wing now becomes "cupped" like a satellite dish, and able to
capture more Gravitational Vector Force, creating more lift

You may read more about this new theory at www.threexd.com

Mark Oliver


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Old October 5th 04, 04:06 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 10:49:58 -0400, "Mark Oliver"
wrote in
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The new theory of flight is based upon the new theory of Gravitational
Vector Force (released Sept 2004).


Was this theory formerly held captive? Who released it?

This subject has been discussed in depth in this newsgroup over the
years:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...ting&lr=&hl=en


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Old October 5th 04, 04:14 PM
Dudley Henriques
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Well, you're on the right newsgroup anyway. Have fun with this one. I
think I'll just sit back and watch :-))
All the best to you,
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired

"Mark Oliver" wrote in message
. ..
The current theory of flight is based upon the Bernoulli's Principal,
the
pressure of a fluid (liquid or gas) decreases at points where the
speed of
the fluid increases. The airfoil is designed to increase the velocity
of
the airflow above its surface, thereby decreasing pressure above the
airfoil. Simultaneously, the impact of the air on the lower surface of
the
airfoil increases the pressure below. This combination of pressure
decrease
above and increase below produces lift. Pressure is reduced due to the
smaller space the air has above the wing than below. Air cannot go
through
the wing, so it must push around it. The surface air molecules push
between
the wing and outer layers of air. Due to the bump of the airfoil, the
space
is smaller and the molecules must go faster.

THIS HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM - specifically inverted flight. The current
theory
of flight utilizing the Bernoulli's Principal is only applicable to
normal
level flight. However, we know and observe that inverted flight is
possible. Thus, the Bernoulli's Principal is no longer applicable to
inverted flight, so there must be another theory that supports flight,
be it
level or inverted.

The new theory of flight is based upon the new theory of Gravitational
Vector Force (released Sept 2004). Utilizing Newton's laws that equal
opposite force is generated at right angles, be it applied at once or
successively, and if the angle is oblique (slanted) a new force is
generated. Then inverted flight is possible as force is always
generated at
right angles, and this is towards the ground in all cases. The net
difference between the initial velocity and resistance force generated
at
the leading edge at right angles (downwards) creates a new force
called
Gravitational Vector Force, and it travels in the opposite direction
(upwards) to maintain balance, impacting the bottom of the wing. The
wing
becomes less efficient in inverted flight due to the design of the
airfoil,
however it is still possible.

This new theory of flight also supports the following;
1) the new force manifests at a faster rate than initial velocity,
hence the
wing becomes more efficient at faster speeds
2) As you extend spoilers and flaps at the leading and trailing edges,
the
bottom of the wing now becomes "cupped" like a satellite dish, and
able to
capture more Gravitational Vector Force, creating more lift

You may read more about this new theory at www.threexd.com

Mark Oliver



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Old October 5th 04, 04:57 PM
Michael Houghton
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Howdy!

In article ,
Mark Oliver wrote (from another space-time
continuum):
[snip intro that actually passes the smell test]

THIS HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM - specifically inverted flight. The current theory
of flight utilizing the Bernoulli's Principal is only applicable to normal
level flight. However, we know and observe that inverted flight is
possible. Thus, the Bernoulli's Principal is no longer applicable to
inverted flight, so there must be another theory that supports flight, be it
level or inverted.


That is a fascinating claim -- one that bespeaks access to the good drugs.
You should share them.

[snip exposition of material that shows Mark isn't wearing his tinfoil
beanie]

yours,
Michael


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| White Wolf and the Phoenix
Bowie, MD, USA | Tablet and Inkle bands, and other stuff
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Old October 5th 04, 05:19 PM
Dan Luke
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"Mark Oliver" wrote:
[snip "interesting" lift ideas]

When you get through with this one, how about explaining the effect of
downwind turns to us?
--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM


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Old October 5th 04, 05:22 PM
OtisWinslow
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Bernoulli sucks. The wing lifts because air pushes on one side
and not the other.




"Mark Oliver" wrote in message
. ..
The current theory of flight is based upon the Bernoulli's Principal, the
pressure of a fluid (liquid or gas) decreases at points where the speed of
the fluid increases. The airfoil is designed to increase the velocity of
the airflow above its surface, thereby decreasing pressure above the
airfoil. Simultaneously, the impact of the air on the lower surface of the
airfoil increases the pressure below. This combination of pressure
decrease
above and increase below produces lift. Pressure is reduced due to the
smaller space the air has above the wing than below. Air cannot go through
the wing, so it must push around it. The surface air molecules push
between
the wing and outer layers of air. Due to the bump of the airfoil, the
space
is smaller and the molecules must go faster.

THIS HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM - specifically inverted flight. The current
theory
of flight utilizing the Bernoulli's Principal is only applicable to normal
level flight. However, we know and observe that inverted flight is
possible. Thus, the Bernoulli's Principal is no longer applicable to
inverted flight, so there must be another theory that supports flight, be
it
level or inverted.

The new theory of flight is based upon the new theory of Gravitational
Vector Force (released Sept 2004). Utilizing Newton's laws that equal
opposite force is generated at right angles, be it applied at once or
successively, and if the angle is oblique (slanted) a new force is
generated. Then inverted flight is possible as force is always generated
at
right angles, and this is towards the ground in all cases. The net
difference between the initial velocity and resistance force generated at
the leading edge at right angles (downwards) creates a new force called
Gravitational Vector Force, and it travels in the opposite direction
(upwards) to maintain balance, impacting the bottom of the wing. The wing
becomes less efficient in inverted flight due to the design of the
airfoil,
however it is still possible.

This new theory of flight also supports the following;
1) the new force manifests at a faster rate than initial velocity, hence
the
wing becomes more efficient at faster speeds
2) As you extend spoilers and flaps at the leading and trailing edges, the
bottom of the wing now becomes "cupped" like a satellite dish, and able to
capture more Gravitational Vector Force, creating more lift

You may read more about this new theory at www.threexd.com

Mark Oliver



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Old October 5th 04, 05:44 PM
Hartwig Flamm
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Mark Oliver wrote:

The current theory of flight is based upon the Bernoulli's Principal, the


No it's not!
Do not stress old Bernoulli. His findings are restricted to the flowing
media only. You can use the _some_ of his laws to find the forces caused by
the air on the structure of the airplane.
In fact the "real" cause for an airplane to stay up is inertia and friction
of the air.
Please see some new publications on aerodynamics (past 1980') to get an idea
on how that works. (You might want to dust of Your knowledge about
differential equations.)


THIS HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM - specifically inverted flight. The current
theory of flight utilizing the Bernoulli's Principal is only applicable to
normal
level flight. However, we know and observe that inverted flight is


Once again if You want to find what the moving air is doing Bernoulli is
fine. And if You do some experimenting, like I did, You will find there is
no dependence from the direction.


The new theory of flight is based upon the new theory of Gravitational
Vector Force (released Sept 2004). Utilizing Newton's laws that equal
opposite force is generated at right angles, be it applied at once or


What Newton was that? Can You cite any document from Mister Newton?


2) As you extend spoilers and flaps at the leading and trailing edges, the
bottom of the wing now becomes "cupped" like a satellite dish, and able to
capture more Gravitational Vector Force, creating more lift


The paragraph above says that a prop can not produce any thrust when heading
straight down? I haven't ever done that but I guess some of the Aerobatics
guys around here can prove You wrong on this point.


And one last statement: There is no "Universal Balance" anywhere (like there
is no "Earth in the Balance"). There is either Stability or Transformation.
Prove me wrong on _that_ if You can!

I keep flying with my old friend Bernoulli and his brother until then....
--

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Old October 5th 04, 07:11 PM
NW_PILOT
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"Mark Oliver" wrote in message
. ..
The current theory of flight is based upon the Bernoulli's Principal, the
pressure of a fluid (liquid or gas) decreases at points where the speed of
the fluid increases. The airfoil is designed to increase the velocity of
the airflow above its surface, thereby decreasing pressure above the
airfoil. Simultaneously, the impact of the air on the lower surface of the
airfoil increases the pressure below. This combination of pressure

decrease
above and increase below produces lift. Pressure is reduced due to the
smaller space the air has above the wing than below. Air cannot go through
the wing, so it must push around it. The surface air molecules push

between
the wing and outer layers of air. Due to the bump of the airfoil, the

space
is smaller and the molecules must go faster.

THIS HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM - specifically inverted flight. The current

theory
of flight utilizing the Bernoulli's Principal is only applicable to normal
level flight. However, we know and observe that inverted flight is
possible. Thus, the Bernoulli's Principal is no longer applicable to
inverted flight, so there must be another theory that supports flight, be

it
level or inverted.

The new theory of flight is based upon the new theory of Gravitational
Vector Force (released Sept 2004). Utilizing Newton's laws that equal
opposite force is generated at right angles, be it applied at once or
successively, and if the angle is oblique (slanted) a new force is
generated. Then inverted flight is possible as force is always generated

at
right angles, and this is towards the ground in all cases. The net
difference between the initial velocity and resistance force generated at
the leading edge at right angles (downwards) creates a new force called
Gravitational Vector Force, and it travels in the opposite direction
(upwards) to maintain balance, impacting the bottom of the wing. The wing
becomes less efficient in inverted flight due to the design of the

airfoil,
however it is still possible.

This new theory of flight also supports the following;
1) the new force manifests at a faster rate than initial velocity, hence

the
wing becomes more efficient at faster speeds
2) As you extend spoilers and flaps at the leading and trailing edges, the
bottom of the wing now becomes "cupped" like a satellite dish, and able to
capture more Gravitational Vector Force, creating more lift

You may read more about this new theory at www.threexd.com

Mark Oliver



Ok what happens when you remove gravity and air? now that space flight is
within the reach of civilian man.



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Old October 5th 04, 07:26 PM
Dudley Henriques
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"Todd Pattist" wrote in message
...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

Well, you're on the right newsgroup anyway. Have fun with this one. I
think I'll just sit back and watch :-))


That's what I decided to do too :-)


Where do these guys COME from????? :-))))
Dudley


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Old October 5th 04, 07:39 PM
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Here I am, popping up as usual whenever lift is mentioned. Dudley's saying
right now, "Uh, oh, here we go again."

This gravitational lift vector is one of the most misunderstood forces in
physics and misconceptions about it in media just won't die.

IT HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH GRAVITATIONAL ATTRACTION.

The forces this theory refer to are a field of time space reality distortion
that is being project "towards" us in a fourth dimensional fashion from
aliens that inhabit the parallel universe that exists slightly separated
from ours by differing alignment of the string particles that compose the
various universes inhabiting what we think of as space we are alone in.

Don't get fooled by over simplifications of the reality around you. The web
site for this theory does just as much of a dis-service to the aliens (they
aren't really aliens because they are actually right next to us and have
been her all along) as the popular lift explanations do to Bernoulli and
Newton.

--

Roger Long




 




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