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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/28/04 10:31 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... ubject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice. On what dates? During the bulge. Incompetent management. The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim we hit Malmedy. You can do your own news search old fool. I am a National Guard alumni. And you are a ****ing liar. The information is even part of a history channel program, with video of the crumbled building. The 344th bombed a building occupied by allied troops and then bombed the location again as rescuers dug out the injured. fortunately noone was killed. |
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Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/28/04 10:41 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/28/04 10:31 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... ubject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice. On what dates? During the bulge. Incompetent management. The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim we hit Malmedy. You can do your own news search old fool. I am a National Guard alumni. And you are a ****ing liar. The information is even part of a history channel program, with video of the crumbled building. The 344th bombed a building occupied by allied troops and then bombed the location again as rescuers dug out the injured. fortunately noone was killed. What was the name of the program? when did it air? Liar. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Art flustered and spit out:
Yeah a lot of politicians went into the Guard. Like Bush. I guess you disagree with Powell. Powell was talking about a specific time period, not over three centuries of North American Militia history. There were some people hiding out in the Militia in the period in question, but not all! Most were professional patriotic people doing their part. You are painting all reservists of more than three centuries of North American history inaccurately and unfairly. You refuse to acknowledge any other view except your own as impossible, traitorous and a lie. Rick Clark P.S. I guess you know that you can never go to Texas again. You have just called the Texas Rangers a bunch of Wussies also, they started out as Militia/Minutemen. |
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On 2/28/04 5:10 AM, in article ,
"ArtKramr" wrote: Yeah a lot of politicians went into the Guard. Like Bush. I guess you disagree with Powell. Yes it is easier now, as it is anytime we don't have to fight an all-out war that requires total mobilization. But talk to LBJ about your complaints re the guard. In fact, if you do dig him up, kick his ass once for me. I disagree that Powell would have meant to include the ANG in general and aircrew members in particular, in such a statement. If he did intend it, I believe that, like too many Army types, he didn't really understand either the USAF or the ANG. Given the historical context, which has been provided repeatedly here and elsewhere and which you cannot understand or choose to ignore, the Army Guard in the VN war years had a very different character from that of the Air Guard. If NOBODY could have avoided serving in some manner during those years, that would have been better. If only volunteers had been used in SEA it would have been best -- and an entirely different war, with no significant social repercussions, and a hell of a lot greater likelihood of either success or a far earlier peace through diplomatic compromise. Sorry we didn't have your war to fight in, Art. We did pretty well, considering the "leadership" we had to work with, in the war we did have. If their decision was not to send Bush's unit, nor to allow pilots with less than 500 hours to go to SEA on an individual basis, that's nobody's fault but the Whitehouse'. No one complains about Bob Hope's kid going into the CA ANG in 1965, why bitch about GHWBush's kid going into the TX ANG when the war was, for the USA, in its winding-down phase? I trust your vision through the Norden was more clear in 1944 than it is when you read the newspaper today, because you are off-target. Perhaps you are reticent to take on Dubya where it matters, which is in his ability to lead the Nation through some tough times in the proper direction. But if you want to stick with the patriotic behavior thing, then fine -- stand by for a tidal wave which will wash Kerry right off the platform. Jack ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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