Bad news for our flying club

The other flying club on our field has just been told by Avemco that they
won't insure Piper Lances and other large complex planes for flying clubs
any more. Since we've got a Lance as well, we're trying to get a
confirmation from Avemco. If true, this is a big blow.

I wonder if they'd insure a Cherokee 6?

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I recommend it. -- James Wallis, Hogshead Publishing

On Sat, 22 May 2004 02:44:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

The other flying club on our field has just been told by Avemco that they
won't insure Piper Lances and other large complex planes for flying clubs
any more. Since we've got a Lance as well, we're trying to get a
confirmation from Avemco. If true, this is a big blow.

I wonder if they'd insure a Cherokee 6?


I don't know the real reason, but a Cherokee 6 isn't complex, its High
Performance. Maybe that's the hot button.

Whatever it is, I don't agree with a blanket denial of coverage like
that. Aren't they in the Insurance Business?

z

a Cherokee 6 is still a complex aircraft.. IIRC.. it only takes two of the
3.. controllable prop, flaps, gear

I'm wondering if the issue is more the 6 seats... and not the 300HP, retract
and flaps..

BT

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
The other flying club on our field has just been told by Avemco that they
won't insure Piper Lances and other large complex planes for flying clubs
any more. Since we've got a Lance as well, we're trying to get a
confirmation from Avemco. If true, this is a big blow.

I wonder if they'd insure a Cherokee 6?

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Hogshead now has a stated policy of Not Doing Business With ****wits,
which
has saved me enormous amounts of heartache over the last few months.
I recommend it. -- James Wallis, Hogshead Publishing

In a previous article, zatatime said:
On Sat, 22 May 2004 02:44:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:
The other flying club on our field has just been told by Avemco that they
won't insure Piper Lances and other large complex planes for flying clubs
any more. Since we've got a Lance as well, we're trying to get a
confirmation from Avemco. If true, this is a big blow.
I don't know the real reason, but a Cherokee 6 isn't complex, its High
Performance. Maybe that's the hot button.

It might be the size and/or value, because the club that got told that
they can't insure their Lance any more has two Arrows and Avemco didn't
say anything about them. We've also got a Dakota, which is also HP.

One thing the club is going to ask Avemco if they'd insure us if we split
off the Lance as a separate membership category with restricted
membership. We currently require 350 hours total time plus a ten hour
checkout for the Lance - I just checked out in this winter.

--
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"Mission Control clears SMS-1 to Canaveral via thrust vectors, Up, Hold
Earth, right turns, expect further clearance in ten days."
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zatatime wrote in
:

...
Whatever it is, I don't agree with a blanket denial of coverage like
that. Aren't they in the Insurance Business?

z

Apparently not... I had my Champ insured with them and about 18 months ago
I got a letter saying that they would not insure it after the next renewal
date. Turns out they dropped the entire Canadian aviation market.
Rob


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One thing the club is going to ask Avemco if they'd insure us if we split
off the Lance as a separate membership category with restricted
membership. We currently require 350 hours total time plus a ten hour
checkout for the Lance - I just checked out in this winter.

Why don't you just tell Avemco to get screwed?

We did -- and saved ourselves money in the bargain.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:ljzrc.6841$7y5.5667@fed1read03...
a Cherokee 6 is still a complex aircraft.. IIRC.. it only takes two of the
3.. controllable prop, flaps, gear

No. Prop and flaps are sufficient for a seaplane. Otherwise, you need all
three.

A Cherokee 6 is NOT a complex airplane.

Pete

In article , Paul Tomblin wrote:
The other flying club on our field has just been told by Avemco that they
won't insure Piper Lances and other large complex planes for flying clubs
any more. Since we've got a Lance as well, we're trying to get a
confirmation from Avemco. If true, this is a big blow.

It's almost certainly not blanket, and it's probably more to do with the
plane having 6 seats rather than being high performance/complex. We had
to insure a C210 as a 4-seat plane (removed the rear two seats) to get
it reasonable. (We could still get insurance with 6 seats but it was a
rip-off)

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

In article , Peter Duniho wrote:
No. Prop and flaps are sufficient for a seaplane. Otherwise, you need all
three.

A Cherokee 6 is NOT a complex airplane.

Nor is a jet aircraft. It doesn't have a controllable pitch propellor
g
--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

On Sat, 22 May 2004 02:44:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

The other flying club on our field has just been told by Avemco that they
won't insure Piper Lances and other large complex planes for flying clubs
any more. Since we've got a Lance as well, we're trying to get a
confirmation from Avemco. If true, this is a big blow.

I wonder if they'd insure a Cherokee 6?

Paul,

You should shop around insurance companies. You may want to use a
broker for this. I use Wenk Aviation Insurance 847-433-8370. Shannon
is my broker, and I have been very pleased with my rates for both a
Cherokee 180 and a Seneca II.

-Nathan