Trim settings the same for takeoff and landing?

Lately I have made a more stringent attempt to trim the aircraft on approach
for landing, and I note that I often end up with a trim setting that is right
inside the takeoff trim setting. Is this a coincidence, or something that is
to be expected?

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Lately I have made a more stringent attempt to trim the aircraft on approach
for landing, and I note that I often end up with a trim setting that is right
inside the takeoff trim setting. Is this a coincidence, or something that is
to be expected?

So many variables. *Plane* for starters!

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Duncan.

On Apr 20, 11:55*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Lately I have made a more stringent attempt to trim the aircraft on approach
for landing, and I note that I often end up with a trim setting that is right
inside the takeoff trim setting. Is this a coincidence, or something that is
to be expected?

Because you fly out at 65 kts and land
at the same speed. The commonality is your airspeed.

---
Mark

On Apr 21, 12:44*am, Dave Doe wrote:

So many variables. **Plane* for starters!

Of course in simulators it will be the same. He doesnt' fly a plane
where weight and balance issues come to play that affect trim settings
like in my real plane.

Ummm, for starters plane comes in lighter after a flight.... :-)))

One other thing, I wouldn't have my trim set in the same spot on EVERY
flight either :-))) as you allude above, more variables then just set
trim and take off / land.

Mark wrote

Because you fly out at 65 kts and land
at the same speed. The commonality is your airspeed.

Mark, you have failed to consider that in most lightplanes, the TO is
made with FLAPS UP and landings are generally made with FULL FLAPS.
Flaps require a really large trim adjustment, remember the GO-AROUND...
the large trim change required immediately after applying power and raising
the flaps? The difference between TO power and approach power also adds to
this large trim change in propellor driven aircraft.

Bob Moore
ATP CFII
PanAm (retired)

On Apr 21, 9:08*am, Bob Moore wrote:
Mark wrote

Because you fly out at 65 kts and land
at the same speed. *The commonality is your airspeed.

Mark, you have failed to consider that in most lightplanes, the TO is
made with FLAPS UP and landings are generally made with FULL FLAPS.

True, that's all I've ever experienced.

Flaps require a really large trim adjustment, remember the GO-AROUND...
the large trim change required immediately after applying power and raising
the flaps?

Yes.

I'm also trimming on each leg including final.

The difference between TO power and approach power also adds to
this large trim change in propellor driven aircraft.

I certainly defer to your greater experience. It's speculation
that a coincidence of airspeed has his trim set at the same
place with take-off and landing, but...if he's just playing
computer games, then this is all probably irrelevant, as
simulation doesn't really translate to the real world.

Thanks.

---
Mark


Bob Moore
ATP CFII
PanAm (retired)

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On 21 Apr 2010 13:08:22 GMT, Bob Moore wrote:

Mark wrote

Because you fly out at 65 kts and land
at the same speed. The commonality is your airspeed.

Mark, you have failed to consider that in most lightplanes, the TO is
made with FLAPS UP and landings are generally made with FULL FLAPS.
Flaps require a really large trim adjustment, remember the GO-AROUND...
the large trim change required immediately after applying power and raising
the flaps? The difference between TO power and approach power also adds to
this large trim change in propellor driven aircraft.

Bob Moore
ATP CFII
PanAm (retired)

Failed to consider?

You're posting to the next Mxsmanic.
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On Apr 22, 1:02*am, " wrote:
On Apr 21, 12:44*am, Dave Doe wrote:

So many variables. **Plane* for starters!

Of course in simulators it will be the same. *He doesnt' fly a plane
where weight and balance issues come to play that affect trim settings
like in my real plane.

Ummm, for starters plane comes in lighter after a flight.... *:-)))

One other thing, I wouldn't have my trim set in the same spot on EVERY
flight either :-))) as you allude above, more variables then just set
trim and take off / land.

I found that I trimmed the aircraft to fly in what ever attitude I
required at that time.
I didn't make a point of examining where the pointer was .

On Apr 21, 3:39*pm, george wrote:

I found that I trimmed the aircraft to fly in what ever attitude I
required at that time.
I didn't make a point of examining where the pointer was .

Exactomundo. Heck, I lean forward or lean back and find myself having
to adjust trim. You just know to adjust it, not look down and set at
a predetermine setting and expect it to be the same setting on
landing.

Guess that's missed in the realism setting of 10 in MSFS LOL