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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil



 
 
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Old October 21st 07, 03:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Peter Dohm
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"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
Jim Macklin wrote:
The current crop of electric hybrids use about 4,000 AA Li-ion batteries
in series-parallel to get 800-1000 VDC for the motors.


The specs I've seen on the Honda Accord hybrid
show 120 NiMH cells giving 144 volts at 6.0 Ah

The Prius also uses NiMH cells, a total of 168
and a peak voltage of 201 volts and 6.5 Ah.


That makes more sense; although I admit that the much higher voltage, with
solid state controls, could be fun to watch--from a safe distance.



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Old October 21st 07, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:
Sounds good to me.
Me, too.

I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile
(round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as
my next vehicle.


All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of
a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips,
and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it,
it becomes pretty green.


Have you researched the process of making solar panels? Things aren't as
"green" as they seem...

Matt


"Green" is a religion, in which party-hack politicians are the gods.

Personally, I prefer a religion in which the only God is more perfect than
any human could even be or even imagine.




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Old October 21st 07, 06:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Ray Andraka wrote:
Matt Barrow wrote:



How is the electricity generated?


by the grid or by a windmill at home. The energy is stored in
batteries, and in some cases batteries combined with super capacitors


Let's see:

Battery: Lead Acid--Lead/Sulphuric Acid
NICD--Nickle/Cadmimum
NIMH--Nickle/Metal Paste
LiON--Lithium

Capacitors: Various metals--Most poisonous

Windmill: Iron, Copper, Aluminum, misc other materials--Manufacturing of
which can be hazardous. Blades can interfer with bird flight.

Remote power generation: Coal and it's problems. Gas and it's problems.
Nuclear and IT'S problems. Hydro and it's problems.

Nothing is simple, clean and save.

Check the price of your corn flakes next time you fuel up with E85.


Dave N

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Old October 21st 07, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.
--
Jim in NC


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Old October 22nd 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On 2007-10-14 00:39:27 -0600, said:


Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.


If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.


Nevertheless, NASA is committed to developing the advanced technology
to make flying an airplane as easy and safe as driving a car, if not
more so. Modern glass panel avionics are one part of that. The Adam is
based on the ideas developed in this program.

It is going to happen -- if GA manages to survive until then.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old October 22nd 07, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.
--
Jim in NC

The baby fish of course!

Al G


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Old October 23rd 07, 07:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:58:02 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Lot of ecological side effects. Good for short term flood control, but
may cause problems long term. A lot depends on the area where the dam
is located.

Roger (K8RI)
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Old October 23rd 07, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:58:02 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Lot of ecological side effects. Good for short term flood control, but
may cause problems long term. A lot depends on the area where the dam
is located.

What sort of "problems"?


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Old October 24th 07, 02:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On 2007-10-21 14:58:02 -0700, "Morgans" said:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Here in the west there is considerable pressure to dismantle the dams
already in place. They are being blamed for weak salmon runs (as if
over-fishing and the recovery in the seal and sea lion population have
had nothing to do with it), concentration of heavy metals near the
dams, flooding of "critical habitat," and just about every other sin
people can think of.

There are environmentalists who believe that the worst possible thing
that could happen to the earth would be for someone to discover a
cheap, non-polluting source of energy.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old October 24th 07, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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These are the same people who think that we should get rid of all the people
of the world except for a few hundred of their fellow believers.


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On 2007-10-21 14:58:02 -0700, "Morgans" said:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.


Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non
polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.


Here in the west there is considerable pressure to dismantle the dams
already in place. They are being blamed for weak salmon runs (as if
over-fishing and the recovery in the seal and sea lion population have had
nothing to do with it), concentration of heavy metals near the dams,
flooding of "critical habitat," and just about every other sin people can
think of.

There are environmentalists who believe that the worst possible thing that
could happen to the earth would be for someone to discover a cheap,
non-polluting source of energy.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


 




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