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Old November 2nd 07, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Dave[_5_]
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Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
drastic changes that resulted.


No, because those crashes were not unintentional. There was no failure
of technology or pilot error involved.

David Johnson

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Old November 2nd 07, 04:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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Dave wrote:
Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
drastic changes that resulted.


No, because those crashes were not unintentional. There was no failure
of technology or pilot error involved.

David Johnson


The Eastern L-1011 flight that flew into the Everglades
while the crew fiddled with a light bulb back in the 70's
created new alerts on radar software for controllers and new
landing procedures.

MSAW(Minimum Safe Altitude Warnings) were born from that crash
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Old November 4th 07, 07:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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Dave wrote:

Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
drastic changes that resulted.



No, because those crashes were not unintentional. There was no failure
of technology or pilot error involved.


How did they get control of the aircraft if the pilots didn't error in
letting them into the cockpit?
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Old November 4th 07, 12:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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"mrtravel" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given
the
drastic changes that resulted.



No, because those crashes were not unintentional. There was no failure
of technology or pilot error involved.


How did they get control of the aircraft if the pilots didn't error in
letting them into the cockpit?


Simple - there was no requirement to lock the door and the door wasn't
reinforced to prevent intrusion, until after this date.

John


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Old November 4th 07, 01:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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John Ewing wrote:

Simple - there was no requirement to lock the door and the door wasn't
reinforced to prevent intrusion, until after this date.


Not true. The doors have been locked since the seventies.
They weren't overly substantial, nor were there any real
strict procedures to cover the opening of the door during
flight.
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Old November 6th 07, 07:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007

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Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given
the drastic changes that resulted.


No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety.


What about Tennerife


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Old November 6th 07, 08:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
John Ewing wrote:

Simple - there was no requirement to lock the door and the door wasn't
reinforced to prevent intrusion, until after this date.


Not true. The doors have been locked since the seventies.
They weren't overly substantial, nor were there any real
strict procedures to cover the opening of the door during
flight.


Beg to differ, Ron.
Doors were not routinely locked.
Most could be locked, but certainly there was no mandatory requirement for
them to be locked in flight.
I think my statement is correct.

John


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Old November 6th 07, 08:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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Graeme Hogan wrote:
"Sylvia Else" wrote in message
u...
Kwyjibo wrote:
"Ned" wrote in message ...
Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
snip

Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given
the drastic changes that resulted.

No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety.


What about Tennerife



Did it happen on September 11, 2001?

Sylvia.
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Old November 6th 07, 03:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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Sylvia Else wrote:

Graeme Hogan wrote:

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message
u...

Kwyjibo wrote:

"Ned" wrote in message ...

Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007

snip

Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list,
given the drastic changes that resulted.

No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety.


What about Tennerife


Did it happen on September 11, 2001?

Sylvia.


When did the topic become "Septemeber 11, 2001"?
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Old November 6th 07, 06:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
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"Graeme Hogan" wrote in
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What about Tennerife


A greater emphasis on CRM.


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