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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
mrtravel wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote: Graeme Hogan wrote: "Sylvia Else" wrote in message u... Kwyjibo wrote: "Ned" wrote in message ... Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007 snip Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. What about Tennerife Did it happen on September 11, 2001? Sylvia. When did the topic become "Septemeber 11, 2001"? When I replied to a posting that commented about September 11. Sylvia. |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Sylvia Else wrote:
mrtravel wrote: Sylvia Else wrote: Graeme Hogan wrote: "Sylvia Else" wrote in message u... Kwyjibo wrote: "Ned" wrote in message ... Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007 snip Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. What about Tennerife Did it happen on September 11, 2001? Sylvia. When did the topic become "Septemeber 11, 2001"? When I replied to a posting that commented about September 11. Sylvia. No, you replied to someone's comment about Tenerife. DIdn't you see it? It says "What about Tennerife", and you quoted it. |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
mrtravel wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote: mrtravel wrote: Sylvia Else wrote: Graeme Hogan wrote: "Sylvia Else" wrote in message u... Kwyjibo wrote: "Ned" wrote in message ... Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007 snip Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. What about Tennerife Did it happen on September 11, 2001? Sylvia. When did the topic become "Septemeber 11, 2001"? When I replied to a posting that commented about September 11. Sylvia. No, you replied to someone's comment about Tenerife. DIdn't you see it? It says "What about Tennerife", and you quoted it. Go back further. The sequence of events should be clear enough. Sylvia. |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
"Graeme Hogan" wrote in message ... "Sylvia Else" wrote in message u... Kwyjibo wrote: "Ned" wrote in message ... Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007 snip Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. What about Tennerife What was the significant inventions made to aviation to prevent this happening again? |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
On Oct 31, 11:31 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. Sylvia. This is completely not true ! The industry has completely changed the way they handle security, hijackers, disturbances, etc.. The loopholes that were explioted that day no longer exist. You have FAMs, FIFDOs, secure cockpits, pasengers willing to stand up and fight, and a whole host of security mesures the traveling public knows little or nothing about. I think this article is silly and very incomplete. |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
F. Baum wrote:
On Oct 31, 11:31 pm, Sylvia Else wrote: Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. Sylvia. This is completely not true ! The industry has completely changed the way they handle security, hijackers, disturbances, etc.. The loopholes that were explioted that day no longer exist. You have FAMs, FIFDOs, secure cockpits, pasengers willing to stand up and fight, and a whole host of security mesures the traveling public knows little or nothing about. I think this article is silly and very incomplete. You correctly identify a change in passenger attitudes. I didn't regard that as relevant, because it was not a change introduced by the industry or regulators, but simply a changed perception on the part of passengers seeking to look after their own interests. The remaining changes, such as preventing people from taking knitting needles on board, are a stable-door closing reaction that has not done anything to improve safety, exactly because of the change in passenger behaviour. What the rules have done is to ensure that passengers are completely disarmed so as to have nothing to use against the next terrorist who dreams up a novel approach to air piracy. Sylvia. |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Sylvia Else wrote:
mrtravel wrote: Sylvia Else wrote: mrtravel wrote: Sylvia Else wrote: Graeme Hogan wrote: "Sylvia Else" wrote in message u... Kwyjibo wrote: "Ned" wrote in message ... Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007 snip Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. What about Tennerife Did it happen on September 11, 2001? Sylvia. When did the topic become "Septemeber 11, 2001"? When I replied to a posting that commented about September 11. Sylvia. No, you replied to someone's comment about Tenerife. DIdn't you see it? It says "What about Tennerife", and you quoted it. Go back further. The sequence of events should be clear enough. Yes, but you responded and quoted the question about Tenerife and asked if it happened on Sept 11. Why would you think it happened on 9/11? |
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Sylvia Else wrote:
The remaining changes, such as preventing people from taking knitting needles on board, are a stable-door closing reaction that has not done anything to improve safety, exactly because of the change in passenger behaviour. Knitting needles are permitted. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm The list is still stupid. You can bring a walking cane, but not a hockey stick or pool cue. |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
mrtravel wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote: The remaining changes, such as preventing people from taking knitting needles on board, are a stable-door closing reaction that has not done anything to improve safety, exactly because of the change in passenger behaviour. Knitting needles are permitted. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...ted-items.shtm The list is still stupid. You can bring a walking cane, but not a hockey stick or pool cue. Kniting needles are banned in Australia. But the amount of inflammable material you can take on board (2kg of matches, for example) is unbelievable. You can also take 2 litres of lighter fuel, though nowadays you'd have to buy it in the secure area because of the general (and totally stupid) limit on liquids. Sylvia. |
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Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
mrtravel wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote: mrtravel wrote: Sylvia Else wrote: mrtravel wrote: Sylvia Else wrote: Graeme Hogan wrote: "Sylvia Else" wrote in message u... Kwyjibo wrote: "Ned" wrote in message ... Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007 snip Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001. I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the drastic changes that resulted. No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety. What about Tennerife Did it happen on September 11, 2001? Sylvia. When did the topic become "Septemeber 11, 2001"? When I replied to a posting that commented about September 11. Sylvia. No, you replied to someone's comment about Tenerife. DIdn't you see it? It says "What about Tennerife", and you quoted it. Go back further. The sequence of events should be clear enough. Yes, but you responded and quoted the question about Tenerife and asked if it happened on Sept 11. Why would you think it happened on 9/11? The "What about Tennerife" question was a non sequitur in the context in which it appeared. My comment was a reasonable response to that. If you don't get it, don't worry about it. 'nuf said on this. Sylvia. |
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