The Idiot without the NOTAM

Makes his first call orbiting Holstein Airport approx 13:17:52 Z

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N9553A is Assigned

Aircraft Description
Serial Number 17280376
Type Registration Corporation
Manufacturer Name CESSNA
Certificate Issue Date 08/20/1999
Model 172R
Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine
Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None
Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None
Mode S Code 53244774
MFR Year 1998
Fractional Owner NO

Registered Owner
Name AIRVIEW INC
Street 1360 QUEENS DR
City MOON TOWNSHIP
State PENNSYLVANIA
Zip Code 15108-1379
County ALLEGHENY
Country UNITED STATES

From the Pennsylvania Secretary of State website...
Business Entity Filing History
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Business Name History
Name AIR VIEW INC.
Name Type Current Name
Business Corporation - Domestic - Information
Entity Number: 692467
Status: Active
Entity Creation Date: 8/28/1979
Registered Office Address: ROUTE 30 & STAR ROUTE 981 LATROBE PA 15650-0
Mailing Address: No Address

This is next to the Latrobe airport

Makes his first call orbiting Holstein Airport approx 13:17:52 Z

Now if you can only track down the lady who literally READ the OSH
NOTAM to another pilot over the radio, en route to OSH (after she had
downloaded it -- in flight -- to her PDA), you'll be truly performing a
public service.

We also heard a bunch of guys (presumably en route to OSH) who were
landing at a towered airport and were having to read the arrival
procedure and frequencies to their buddy, who clearly had no sectional
and no clue what he was doing.

It's scary to think that people launch toward OSH without studying the
NOTAM in advance -- but some do.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Makes his first call orbiting Holstein Airport approx 13:17:52 Z
[snip]
It's scary to think that people launch toward OSH without studying the
NOTAM in advance -- but some do.

I realize I'm new to all this, ~75 hours, new plastic card and all, but
I cannot imagine starting even a short cross country without looking up
all this information and writing it on my flight planning log. Much
less going into OSH or SnF without talking to someone who's been AND
getting the NOTAMs etc. I have to say, my reaction to all this is if I
ever get to OSH, I'll drive. My main remaining fear in flying is mid
air collision and this seems like a prime recipie for that.

I think something Jay said in one of the other threads is correct, this
is the only cross country people make all year. And they are
irresponsible. Sigh. I hope GA is aorund for my kids, but I begin to
wonder...

John Stevens
PP-ASEL

I realize I'm new to all this, ~75 hours, new plastic card


What "plastic" card? gd&r

You're right, I wouldn't dream of going out there without all that
information, but the people are there.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Although Mike's post was a little tongue-in-cheek, the solution can be
something similar. There could be a "license suspension pending retest"
for a number of situations that fall under a "that was really a dumb
thing" category. Hopefully the bottom 10% would weed themselves out of
the picture.

Given a fair, analytical and fully researched approach to the problem,
I think it can really work. Basically, there should be a "wash-out"
situation like the US Air Force (or any air force for that matter) and
the airlines. GA ability to revoke licenses is only based on bad
violations and the most extreme examples of inability.

Marco

Thomas Borchert wrote:
I realize I'm new to all this, ~75 hours, new plastic card


What "plastic" card? gd&r

You're right, I wouldn't dream of going out there without all that
information, but the people are there.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"js" == jsstevens writes:

js I realize I'm new to all this, ~75 hours, new plastic card and
js all, but I cannot imagine starting even a short cross country
js without looking up all this information and writing it on my
js flight planning log.

You will, at some point.

js my reaction to all this is if I ever get to OSH,
js I'll drive. My main remaining fear in flying is mid air
js collision and this seems like a prime recipie for that.

Nahhh...get another 100-200 hours, and 50-75 hours in the past
year, and you'll be good. Or fly it the first time with a more
experienced hand in the right seat.

I truly believe that if the "system"--excluding the Darwin factor--were
able to raise the bar and get rid of the bottom 5-10% of pilots flying
now in terms cognitive, decision-making, and stick-n-rudder ability we
would see a dramatic (maybe 50%) decrease in accidents. In time, it
will even revitalize GA by removing the "it's so dangerous up there"
mindset currently predominating the general public's opinion and more
people would start flying.

Marco (flame shield on )



Jay Honeck wrote:
Makes his first call orbiting Holstein Airport approx 13:17:52 Z

Now if you can only track down the lady who literally READ the OSH
NOTAM to another pilot over the radio, en route to OSH (after she had
downloaded it -- in flight -- to her PDA), you'll be truly performing a
public service.

We also heard a bunch of guys (presumably en route to OSH) who were
landing at a towered airport and were having to read the arrival
procedure and frequencies to their buddy, who clearly had no sectional
and no clue what he was doing.

It's scary to think that people launch toward OSH without studying the
NOTAM in advance -- but some do.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Marco,

I truly believe that if the "system"--excluding the Darwin factor--were
able to raise the bar and get rid of the bottom 5-10% of pilots flying
now in terms cognitive, decision-making, and stick-n-rudder ability we
would see a dramatic (maybe 50%) decrease in accidents. In time, it
will even revitalize GA by removing the "it's so dangerous up there"
mindset currently predominating the general public's opinion and more
people would start flying.


I fully agree. Question is: Who gets to decide?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

There's a really simple solution. Upon landing at Oshkosh EVERY plane gets
a very simple ramp check to make sure that they have the NOTAM with them.
Anyone who arrives without a NOTAM gets their ticket revoked for 5 years.

Problem solved.

Mike Schumann

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...
Marco,

I truly believe that if the "system"--excluding the Darwin factor--were
able to raise the bar and get rid of the bottom 5-10% of pilots flying
now in terms cognitive, decision-making, and stick-n-rudder ability we
would see a dramatic (maybe 50%) decrease in accidents. In time, it
will even revitalize GA by removing the "it's so dangerous up there"
mindset currently predominating the general public's opinion and more
people would start flying.


I fully agree. Question is: Who gets to decide?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Mike,

There's a really simple solution.


Sounds a lot like the 10 k$ solution proposed for violating the
Washington ADIZ.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)