Mxsmanic

Could everybody PLEASE not contribute to any thread with any posting
from Mxsmanic?!!! His postings are spamming up this group to no end.
Gerd

Regarding MX, the wannabe pain in the lower back.

He's actually, by my measure at least, a sad case. There's obvously
some intelligence there but by his own admission he earns a bit over
$100 a week.

He has endured a one hour gate hold at Logan -- while simulating a
flight!

He carefully programs the flight plan into his computer, probably does
a simulated taxi out, then lets the computer simulator's autopilot fly
most of the flight. That may mean he sits in front of his computer,
feet on simulated rudder controls, with a play stick or a yoke, I'm not
sure which, and watches the simulator fly itself.

I think most of us who are pilots are successful in other aspects of
our lives too. I would guess many of us are managers, and of those, a
number had told smart people who wear their Mensa memberships like a
badge of honor that their services are no longer required because, in
reality, they were too difficult to work with. He is, I think, in that
class.

I do hope he finds a measure of happiness in his chair (does he wear a
shoulder harness?) playing his simulated games, but it's not a life I
would choose for anyone I cared about.

So let him have some fun. One need not make replies made to his posts
except perhaps when his 'logical' assertions are in conflict with safe
flying. He has, we can assume, never touched the toe brakes to stop the
wheels rotating before retracting them, never saw a runway appear 20
degrees off the nose at MDA, or ice growing on the wing, or requested
ATC permission to fly at 7200 feet with minor deviations in the course
so he could play in the canyons in the clouds.

Do you remember what it's like to tell a non-flyer what general
avaition is all about, and some of the experiences you had? Think of
that when you read his posts, and feel sadness rather than anger. He
probably can't help himself.

And, really, take this attitude. "Mx, your comments are no longer
needed here," and respond only if you think he's making unsafe
suggestions. The response is NOT directed at him, but at newer pilots
who might be reading the thread. After all, MX is sometimes 'logical'
even when he's wrong, and we don't want newbies. or ourselves, to be
misled.

Gee, that's almost a rant, isn't it?



On Jan 8, 11:29 am, "gwengler" wrote:
Could everybody PLEASE not contribute to any thread with any posting
from Mxsmanic?!!! His postings are spamming up this group to no end.
Gerd

gwengler wrote:

Could everybody PLEASE not contribute to any thread with any posting
from Mxsmanic?!!! His postings are spamming up this group to no end.

1. I empathize. This has been an issue almost from the beginning of USENET.

2. Your posting (and my response) only adds to the "spam" you're complaining
about.

3. "Any thread with any posting from XXX" could eliminate a lot of good
information. It's best to simply ignore posters you find offensive.

4. I recommend using a traditional newsreader and subscribing to a USENET
provider (some are even free). This option will allow you to filter out
posts based on sender, subject, content, etc. and could lead to a higher
quality USENET experience. Google has done a good thing by archiving almost
all USENET articles, but they are doing all of us a disservice by not
allowing a quality newsreader experience (even a browser-based one).

--
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gwengler wrote:
Could everybody PLEASE not contribute to any thread with any posting
from Mxsmanic?!!!

If you really think this plea will have any effect, you're delusional.


His postings are spamming up this group to no end.
Gerd

While the posts you are referring to are undesirable, I'm not sure
"spam" is the right word for what you are talking about.


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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:27:01 -0600, Chris W wrote:

gwengler wrote:
Could everybody PLEASE not contribute to any thread with any posting
from Mxsmanic?!!!

If you really think this plea will have any effect, you're delusional.

Okay, that one set me off.

The irony of applying the word 'delusional' to a critic of the manic!
Oh the critic is the bad guy, rebelling against the right and proper
wants of this news group. He can't think straight, imagining things.
Right...

'Delusional', huh? Looks like a spit couched in hateful cynicism;
would be easily seen, if it weren't for the lack of clear motive. So
what is it? Just plain evil?

His postings are spamming up this group to no end.
Gerd

While the posts you are referring to are undesirable, I'm not sure
"spam" is the right word for what you are talking about.

You're so discerning. So what is the right word? "Instruction"?
Little is resolved in his threads. I read those on trimming (w&b) and
leaning, unfortunately. Mind-bending from a bent mind. Futile
non-resolutions ad infinitum. And if he is then so must be his
critics, sadly.

Your use of the word 'undesirable' wrt Mxsmanic (or just his posts),
and putting it between the opposing views forces me to believe you
didn't really mean it. Or undesirable is what you like. Or its what
you and a few others demand us to accept. What is your ulterior
motive? Frustrated aviators? Anarchy? Always a few of those around.
That is not acceptable. Acceptibility must not be universal.

Seemingly, (and if so then cowardly), you defend him from angry words
from those who likley would do him no harm. You defend one who serves
no useful purpose to this world. You defend one who has, and quite
stubbornly (with a certain amount of talent), managed to drag a number
of professionals into his own dark world they are not trained to deal
with.

Some just like to argue, so they have Mxsmanic. Some like to watch
others argue, so they have him & this news group. The rest of us get
little use out of that parasitic relationship, which only serves to
realize the simulator to Mxsmanic, when what he really needs is to get
out and deal with the real world, or be put away by it. It is queer,
psychotic. It isn't difficult to see that the mismated thing should
be avoided, or more.
--
Michael

Michael Rhodes wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:27:01 -0600, Chris W wrote:

gwengler wrote:
Could everybody PLEASE not contribute to any thread with any posting
from Mxsmanic?!!!
If you really think this plea will have any effect, you're delusional.

Okay, that one set me off.

The irony of applying the word 'delusional' to a critic of the manic!

The OP was not a critic, it was a plea. My response was not intended to
to be a critic on to worthiness of the plea, just the effectiveness of
it. Any one posting any message that says something like... "Could
everybody PLEASE not post this that or the other thing?", would have
received a similar response from me. If you think any such plea will
have any effect on posters, you are not just delusional, you are
pathetically delusional.


Oh the critic is the bad guy, rebelling against the right and proper
wants of this news group. He can't think straight, imagining things.
Right...

'Delusional', huh? Looks like a spit couched in hateful cynicism;
would be easily seen, if it weren't for the lack of clear motive. So
what is it? Just plain evil?

Cynicism? More like realism, such pathetic pleas will never be useful.


His postings are spamming up this group to no end.
Gerd
While the posts you are referring to are undesirable, I'm not sure
"spam" is the right word for what you are talking about.

You're so discerning. So what is the right word?

I don't know but if you label every piece of undesirable email-type of
communication spam, you devalue the meaning of the word.




"Instruction"?
Little is resolved in his threads.

Again my previous post didn't even attempt to address the worthiness of
the posts by the subject of this thread. However I will say that while
his contributions seem to be pretty worthless, I have learned from some
of the other posts in those treads.



Some just like to argue, so they have Mxsmanic. Some like to watch
others argue, so they have him & this news group. The rest of us get
little use out of that parasitic relationship.

Then you only have one logical recourse, ignore any such postings. No
other course of action (short of killing someone or physically
destroying their ability to post) will have any effect and once again if
you think . . . never mind I think I made my point already.


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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:53:29 -0600, Chris W wrote:

Michael Rhodes wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:27:01 -0600, Chris W wrote:



The OP was not a critic, it was a plea. My response was not intended to
to be a critic on to worthiness of the plea, just the effectiveness of
it. Any one posting any message that says something like... "Could
everybody PLEASE not post this that or the other thing?", would have
received a similar response from me. If you think any such plea will
have any effect on posters, you are not just delusional, you are
pathetically delusional.


His plea is complaint, and with others it is an irritant. Irritants
are not necessarily without value, or 'delusional'. And your
overstated reply iis also intended an irritant, though in the opposite
direction; against those most would say are quite sane, as of this
moment.

Yours worries me.


'Delusional', huh? Looks like a spit couched in hateful cynicism;
would be easily seen, if it weren't for the lack of clear motive. So
what is it? Just plain evil?

Cynicism? More like realism, such pathetic pleas will never be useful.

Realistic? Psychosis are real. Pleading with them is likely
pathetic. But removing them is a reasonable goal. It is the one
having most realistic chances of success -- unless 'the law' makes it
'unrealistic'.

He is pleading for 'the law', (whatever that might be), to remove the
disturbance. You consider that delusional and pathetic. So, what?
You defend the disturbance in apparent hate of 'the law'. That is
pathetic.


His postings are spamming up this group to no end.
Gerd
While the posts you are referring to are undesirable, I'm not sure
"spam" is the right word for what you are talking about.

You're so discerning. So what is the right word?

I don't know but if you label every piece of undesirable email-type of
communication spam, you devalue the meaning of the word.

That is a strange statement, almost a twisted defense of spam.

"Instruction"?
Little is resolved in his threads.

Again my previous post didn't even attempt to address the worthiness of
the posts by the subject of this thread. However I will say that while
his contributions seem to be pretty worthless, I have learned from some
of the other posts in those treads.

His threads exercise the mind, forcing it to run in circles,
eventually wearing paths too easily found again. I prefer my paths
more disciplined. The concepts gained are more appreciated, a method
of learning becomes a sought-after discipline. It affects my view of
the world, and my neighbors.

Msxmanic's preoccupation with a 'default' trim setting found nothing.
Nothing was expected. After study, my conclusion is that he actually
knew that all along, but enjoyed the game with those he knows have
almost no choice but to attempt to teach. If he didn't know it, then
the demon that posseses him does. The value added by instruction,
(the 'food' as one poster called it), becomes bait into a trap.

Generally, the group's attempt is to overwhelm the thread with a valid
perspective. But Msxmanic is very persistent, refusing to let go of
the 'spolight'.


Some just like to argue, so they have Mxsmanic. Some like to watch
others argue, so they have him & this news group. The rest of us get
little use out of that parasitic relationship.

Then you only have one logical recourse, ignore any such postings. No
other course of action (short of killing someone or physically
destroying their ability to post) will have any effect and once again if
you think . . . never mind I think I made my point already.

By expressing my thoughts as if it were your excretion?
--
Michael

I guess I'm not being clear. I am not saying the request in the OP is,
or is not worthy. In fact, I'm explicitly avoiding that.

Let me put it this way. Suppose you were with a group of people all
doing something you wanted to do, and then some one you don't even know
walks up and says, "hey stop doing that". Are you going to stop doing
something you want to just because someone you don't even know asks you
to. I know most people wouldn't.

In other words no one in this or any other news group is going to stop
doing something just because some asks them to. If there are posts you
don't like, them simply don't read them. There is nothing you can do to
stop them. If you think you can . . .

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Obvioulsy, not everyone is of my opinion:
Gerd


Howdy!

In article .com you
write:
Could everybody PLEASE not contribute to any thread with any posting
from Mxsmanic?!!! His postings are spamming up this group to no end.
Gerd

At least his postings pertain to aviation, unlike your post which
simply takes up space. Your post is far more like spam than his.
Thank you for taking up space in my killfile.

yours,
Michael

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On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:48:55 -0800, gwengler wrote
(in article . com):

Obvioulsy, not everyone is of my opinion:
Gerd

I would be one of them. I find the postings pleading for people to ignore Mx
even more annoying than he is. I particularly object to people who advocate
mistreating him.

If you don't like his posts, don't read them. I don't read them because he is
too argumentative, a characteristic he shares with many of his detractors.